2006 Internext and AVN running at the same time.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Finally, we will end up overwhelmed with consumer types on our floor, diluting the ROI for booth owners; as well as educating far too many surfers about the backend of our industry.

I don't think enough thought is being put into preventing this from happening (even by most of us here). But this could indeed be a problem if what it creates is an even larger class of surfers who will (almost) never pay for porn.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Last year's overlap seemed to work out fine, although Internext lost out on some bigger exhibitors like Wicked who were forced to choose where their booth would be most productive. I did find that since I was attending the trade-only day (the overlapped day) at AEE, that my Internext experience felt rushed.
While I appreciate smaller hotel bills due to a shorter stay; I have mixed feelings about the overlap. There isn't enough time for everything in the condensed version, and our show is going to end up lost in the shuffle since AEE is certainly more profitable for AVN.
Finally, we will end up overwhelmed with consumer types on our floor, diluting the ROI for booth owners; as well as educating far too many surfers about the backend of our industry.

From my understanding, this will NOT be the case.

The droolers (the public that attends the video show) will not be allowed into the internext show.

So I don't think your concerns are well founded.

Alex

[Linkster]

Alex - that is also the impression I got when talking with Aly - although the shows will be next to each other with the possibility of an open door between the floors - there would be some security to prevent the non-pass people getting into the Internext show, while still allowing the cross business flow

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

From my understanding, this will NOT be the case.

The droolers (the public that attends the video show) will not be allowed into the internext show.

So I don't think your concerns are well founded.

Alex

No credentials are required to purchase a pass. The Vegas show has lots of non-industry types cruising the floor every year anyway. $150 is nothing in Vegas- it's not stopping people from indulging their curiosities, nor is AVN likely to refuse their money.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

No credentials are required to purchase a pass. The Vegas show has lots of non-industry types cruising the floor every year anyway. $150 is nothing in Vegas- it's not stopping people from indulging their curiosities, nor is AVN likely to refuse their money.

... and exactly how is this different from any other year? This is one of the reasons many companies don't have open parties anymore, because people were figuring out that for $150, they could "party like pornstars". Probably 1/4 of the people at internext vegas are either not in the business or own a single website / hosted free site / hosted gallery.

Has been like that for years... might actually be better this year because for $25, they can get a drooler pass to the video show and leave us alone.

Alex

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

... and exactly how is this different from any other year?

Has been like that for years... might actually be better this year because for $25, they can get a drooler pass to the video show and leave us alone.

Alex

To Quote: .. and exactly how is this different from any other year?

The bitch of it this year is all three shows are on the same days.....and some of us need to cover all of them. The droolers could always get a $25 pass.
Can't tell you how many times people tried to buy my pass(es).

[Jim]

I wonder how much money AVN is saving by having both shows at the same time. I know how much they will be passing on to the webmaster....none.

[Greenguy]

I can see them offering some sort of combo pass for both shows, knowing that most people will not go to both & they will make an extra $100 or so of everyone that buys one.

[Dr Bizzaro]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I can see them offering some sort of combo pass for both shows, knowing that most people will not go to both & they will make an extra $100 or so of everyone that buys one.

Stop giving them ideas on how to make more money off us....

[SirMoby]

I'm waiting for them to announce that you'll have to have a badge to even enter the Venetian. It's funny but I called the Westin in Florida and they don't know they're going to be closed to the public

[Toby]

AVN's first priority has always been adult videos, and second has been sponsor programs. They don't even have an understanding of the independent adult webmasters role in the industry. Until some major sponsors notice that they're spending big bucks to set up booths and just talk amongst themselves will anything get done about it.

Maybe they can send FSC the same wake-up call. Neither organization seems to understand that for every sponsor and video producer there are thousands of independent adult webmasters.

[Surfn]

This past Vegas show I left after two days because the layout was so incredibly poor and there was no attempt to move people through the badge process in a timely fashion.

Still I did make a some new contacts in those few days I've consulted with a couple of sponsors here in the U.S. and One sponsor from the U.K. all their programs are/were good they were trying to tweak them even better.

I told myself when I left the last show in January that it was indeed my last show. And it is. As more and more of us experienced webmasters start dropping out of attending who will these sponsors turn to? I don't know that answer. As a businesses owner I do know that want the broadest input possible before arriving at a decision.

I believe the regional gathering will grow to be more effective. And so will the alternative gatherings, someone I know (lol) is planing a gathering in Virgin Islands on the same date as the Vegas show for webmasters who want to network

Sorry about the long post but I can see the hand writing on the wall and if you can't...well you can't.

[DannyCox]

Originally Posted by Surfn

And so will the alternative gatherings, someone I know (lol) is planing a gathering in Virgin Islands on the same date as the Vegas show for webmasters who want to network

Details! I want details! The VI's are one of our second homes. Been sailing those waters for years

[emmanuelle]

I'm all ears :-)

[Greenguy]

I'm thinking a small friends only kinda thing...and oddly enough, most of my friends have more than 500 posts on this board

We could always pretend that we're "big" & make up VIP passes & have a secret location & a non-existant limo services

Let's start with this...you know of a placve we could have a party - bar? I'd guess about 100 people (but we can put out feelers & invite lists on the board once we get moving)

[docholly]

BILFI hunter on the case!!

|cool|




bilfi=bars i'd love to fuck in.

[EmporerEJ]

Stupidest dumbass thing to do....
I like the old way, shows overlap, but it allowed to to get around to all three shows, including CES.
Dumbass move.
But if they are in the same hall, that will at least be an improvement. might make it more "palatable."

Love vegas...would like to LIVE in vegas....

[Greenguy]

I've been asking for 3 cards when I check in so that I can give the extra one to people that stay at other hotels

[Greenguy]

docholly & I are in negotiations

[docholly]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

docholly & I are in negotiations

The "Art" of Deal!!

[Linkster]

I guess this has been out for a while so I figure it wont hurt to post it - wondering how much stuff will change now that both the Xbiz awards and the Players Ball are going to be at WA in November instead of Vegas in Jan

[Torn Rose]

I was dead set on Vegas this year... now I am thinking of once again not going.

[Dr Bizzaro]

Originally Posted by Torn

I was dead set on Vegas this year... now I am thinking of once again not going.

That's ok, we didn't miss you last year.

[Erick G]

They need to have an Internext in New York CIty or near NYC
I hate flying that far

[MrMaryLou]

Torn wasn't there??????