Blind links ?

[rscott]

Timely thread, I just grabbed some banners for a site, and they say everything I'd say in text. "Click Here to see...., Join xxxxxx here and see all...." just about everything I'd have to say in text to make sure their not rejected as "blind".

But I still have to add text,

Do we really have to assume that the avg. porn surfer is a total moron when it comes to clicking on banners?

[MrYum]

Yea, I think some of those points made in the 97 article are a bit out of date in todays market. Things have gotten a lot more competitive since 97. While I'm not one to overly coddle the surfer, the surfer has gotten more savy since 97 too. If you want him as a bookmarker, it's probably not in your best interest to deceive or fuck with him.

But then I'm a big believer in pretty much honest straight up advertising. Don't be shy...PUSH his buttons...get him HARD...make the SALE! Tell him where he's going and how great it's gonna be when he busts a nut all over his keyboard But, don't lie or deceive...

One of the issues I see frequently is folks who aren't native english speakers. I've seen links so badly written, I have no idea what they're trying to say. That's almost always an instant decline.

Others, yep...I do understand it...but the link makes no mention of the sponsor. Makes no mention of 'join here' or 'take the tour' or 'see some sample vids here'. There's really no indication that the link leads offsite. That's a blind link...imo.

Just declined a site last night for a link saying 'Free Videos Here'. Yup, I clicked and no there weren't even video samples on the tour. Again, why lie?

I really don't think the surfer of today is as naive as the surfer of 97. Our target market today KNOWS he can find free porn all over the place. Our job is to offer up something so hot and so juicy, he doesn't think he can find it elsewhere. Or, he's so fucking horny...he's got to have it NOW! Damn, I LOVE those kinds of surfers

But then...wtf do I know?! I'm amazed that people still make money with spam and popping consoles on people with blockers installed.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by rscott

Timely thread, I just grabbed some banners for a site, and they say everything I'd say in text. "Click Here to see...., Join xxxxxx here and see all...." just about everything I'd have to say in text to make sure their not rejected as "blind".

If it's on a graphic banner it probably isn't going to be blind.

Originally Posted by rscott

Do we really have to assume that the avg. porn surfer is a total moron when it comes to clicking on banners?

They are.

Originally Posted by Halfdeck

I don't really care if a link says "More free videos at xxx.com" and there's no video there at all. It's deceptive text but it's not blind, because it tells you exactly where the link is taking you.

On the other hand, if it says "More free videos click here" and that takes you to a paysite tour with tons of free sample vids, the text isn't deceptive but it's clearly blind beause the link doesn't specify the destination.

Now, if there are banners nearby and the banner mentions the paysite name, or if the free site only promotes one paysite and drills the name of the paysite into a surfer's head by the main.html page, then there's no need to mention the paysite name every time you link out.

That's my way of thinking.

I hardly every see text on a gallery page that I consider blind because by then the surfer should have figured out the site that is being promoted and how it is being promoted. They've already worked their way to the gallery links, so they're doing just fine.

And as for "View the free vidoes at Paysite.com" and there aren't any videos, well, that's a lie, but I agree with Halfdeck. A lie doesn't make it blind. To me, blind only refers to passing from the free site to another site, not what is on the other site. You could say "Come to Paysite.com and Join for Free" and I don't care if it really costs $30 bucks and nothing's for free. It's horribly bad marketing and it will never produce a sale, but it's not blind.

[rscott]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

If it's on a graphic banner it probably isn't going to be blind..

So...as long as these banners go where there supposed to, I shouldn't have to ad text for them not to be considered blind?

http://www.cyberlinkxxx.com/asian_wet_sex/1/

[Useless]

Originally Posted by rscott

So...as long as these banners go where there supposed to, I shouldn't have to ad text for them not to be considered blind?

http://www.cyberlinkxxx.com/asian_wet_sex/1/

Those banners are fine all on there own. They're no where near blind. Of course, I alwasy suggest that you add supporting text just to help the sale. Banners themselves tend not to be horribly informative. Pretty and eye-catching -yes. Informative - no.

[The Cucumber]

Personally I don't care about banners to much...aslong as they do not show a 468px wide "enter" img
Actually, when I look at the coversions I have...I really think I get some serious morons on my site

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by rscott

..."Click Here to see...., Join xxxxxx here and see all...." just about everything I'd have to say in text to make sure their not rejected as "blind".
...
Do we really have to assume that the avg. porn surfer is a total moron when it comes to clicking on banners?

I wouldn't consider any banner a blind link unless it looked like clickable thumbs, and I'm probably even more lenient on those then most, so avoid those types of banners -- or it was a giant enter, but that's pretty obvious I would think.

-Preacher