Internext/AEE passes anyone :) - AVN SUCKS!!!!!

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by Far-L

6. I don't care what you do but anytime you try to please a majority then a minority is going to be pissed. Consequently, if the big sponsor programs are the ones paying for the booths and free booze then naturally they are going to be catered to in the other areas of the show as well. How many of you link list folks have ever bought a booth? That doesn't mean that your input should be ignored though and we all know that usually the traffic panels are the most heavily attended seminars. Conversely, that means LL and other related people should have a special place in a webmaster show, imo.

What does this have to do with the dates of the show?

When the dates were announced on GFY and other boards, 95% of every webmaster said the same thing we are saying. This sucks! It is going to be expensive and way too busy.

And the sponsors want webmasters. They don't care that the CES is going on. Most of them (I'd assume) are glad it is "close to" the AEE show because it saves them travel time/costs coming back to attend but it will still save them if the show followed these shows and didn't run at the same time.

I understand what you are doing Far L and appreciate your postings. If you want suggestions for your boss then here is a legitimate one. From now on make the show like it was in the past. On different dates from the AEE. Just before or just after. Moving venues or wahtever is a stretch but just before or just after is not.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Ramster

What does this have to do with the dates of the show?

When the dates were announced on GFY and other boards, 95% of every webmaster said the same thing we are saying. This sucks! It is going to be expensive and way too busy.

And the sponsors want webmasters. They don't care that the CES is going on. Most of them (I'd assume) are glad it is "close to" the AEE show because it saves them travel time/costs coming back to attend but it will still save them if the show followed these shows and didn't run at the same time.

I understand what you are doing Far L and appreciate your postings. If you want suggestions for your boss then here is a legitimate one. From now on make the show like it was in the past. On different dates from the AEE. Just before or just after. Moving venues or wahtever is a stretch but just before or just after is not.

AVN is not my boss... lol.

I am one of the owners of Homegrown Video/Xplor Media and New Destiny Internet Group.

I just like the folks at AVN and I am trying to foster a better relationship for all. The magazine and the shows have been good for biz for us so I am trying to do them a favor out of appreciation.

This year the shows were combined for reasons beyond their control. It won't be like that in the future.

What month and place do you suggest?

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by Far-L

This year the shows were combined for reasons beyond their control. It won't be like that in the future.

What month and place do you suggest?

Unfortunately this discussion of dates and places comes up every year - and the reply is always the same - nothing. Suggestions are made and discussed, but no reply ever comes out - of course Im of the opinion that it never would change as I sure would set up a negotiated schedule quite a few years in advance and I would hope that AVN is smart enough to do the same.
So I dont think that this part of the discussion will go anywhere based on prior history

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Unfortunately this discussion of dates and places comes up every year - and the reply is always the same - nothing. Suggestions are made and discussed, but no reply ever comes out - of course Im of the opinion that it never would change as I sure would set up a negotiated schedule quite a few years in advance and I would hope that AVN is smart enough to do the same.
So I dont think that this part of the discussion will go anywhere based on prior history

Agreed and thanks for your gracious and informed responses.

At least if you knew when those contracts could change you would have more to work with input-wise.

I am going to get as much feedback here as possible and set up a meeting with AVN/internext this week so give me about a week to get back with responses.

Until then, this input is incredibly useful.