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Old 2006-04-19, 04:36 PM   #1
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There's some good content providers, they don't spam, and they get some great word of mouth buzz from satisfied webmasters. There's some content providers that buy advertising on a board, I'm also cool with that as they're support the board / community and I don't have a problem with them posting advertising stuff, etc.

I think the only group that really bugs me is the guys that sit on boardtracker all day waiting for the word content to pop up...they then post regardless if they can be helpful or not.

Only one group is worst...that's the guy that starts meaningless threads, does so on all the adult boards, and its basically softcore spam in the guise of a real thread. Seriously, pay the cash, become a board sponsor if you want to peddle your stuff on a board.
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Old 2006-04-19, 04:55 PM   #2
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I guess people are pointing at me or people like me, so let me tell you the other side.

Producing Content is not as profitable as it was 5 years ago.

We need to get out there and keep pushing to keep selling, for every person who wants the softly softly approach from a content provider there are two who will buy from the aggressive marketer.

Now look around at the number of content providers who do advertise on the boards. How many can you count? Because the truth is the sponsors have priced it out of our reach.

Now look around at the number of good content providers there are, not a lot. A lot have found it best to shoot exclusive and give up the non exclusive market, if not for the other sales we make we would of gone the same route.

So while you sit back and moan about content providers who keep spamming the boards, be thankful we are still here. Because without them you would be in the hands of the sponsors giving you content.

If anyone can tell me the name of a content provider who sells good non exclusive teen content please tell me as I'm on a buying spree for the paysite.
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Old 2006-04-19, 05:23 PM   #3
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I guess people are pointing at me or people like me, so let me tell you the other side.
Actually, no one mentioned names, but if you really want to run with this and defend content provider spam, that's fine by me, lol.

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We need to get out there and keep pushing to keep selling, for every person who wants the softly softly approach from a content provider there are two who will buy from the aggressive marketer.
Boards shouldn't have to deal with spam of any kind. If your product is good other webmasters will recommend you. If you deal in an upfront manner, if you stick your spam to the announcement threads I doubt anyone would care. It's just the steady stream of bullshit posts that get a little too much.

Like that fool you hired, what's his name, and he went to every board asking if this content was milf content or not, he did it on every board, on some boards he posted the same thread twice, etc. Seriously, fire him and buy some advertising instead.

Also you make it like boards can't control this aggressive marketing...sure they can, they just ban you, and there goes your aggressive marketing sales vs. just participating with board members.

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Now look around at the number of content providers who do advertise on the boards. How many can you count? Because the truth is the sponsors have priced it out of our reach.
Actually, Sellmycontent did a rather nice board promotion on another board, club xstream promotes here and elsewhere. Have you checked the cost of advertising on GG&J? I think Jim handles that part of the board, maybe you should drop him a line and see if you can work something out. Then again, if you can get the milk for free, why buy the cow.
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Old 2006-04-19, 09:08 PM   #4
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If anyone can tell me the name of a content provider who sells good non exclusive teen content please tell me as I'm on a buying spree for the paysite.

Tom Mayes. tm-photo

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which means ka-ka

Note: no links so it can't be spam.
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Old 2006-04-19, 10:24 PM   #5
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We need to get out there and keep pushing to keep selling, for every person who wants the softly softly approach from a content provider there are two who will buy from the aggressive marketer.
I've dealt with sales people for 25+ years and spent much of my career doing just that. The pushy sales people always pulled about the same as the lazy sales people. There were a few that could make a few extra bucks here and there but they could never stay with these same company for long.

The best of the pushy marketers made about 10% of the top sales people.

The top sales people were the real business people. They cared about the customer. They networked and made friends. They gained trust. They helped people out.

Basically they were good members of the business community and always made 5 to 10 times what the pushy people made. Business to business sales have always been the same. People like you and trust you and you get business. People don't like you and don't trust you they go some where else.

How hard is that to understand?
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Old 2006-04-19, 11:52 PM   #6
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How hard is that to understand?
He took a mail order course, "Herb Tarlek's Guide To Sales" and he hasn't been the same since.
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He took a mail order course, "Herb Tarlek's Guide To Sales" and he hasn't been the same since.
That Herb Tarlek was one snappy dresser.
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Rock Bottom has teens.
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