Help Need Feedback please

[MadCat]

Originally Posted by nate

Theres one guy here that is a lighttpd expert that might be able to offer advice about that and streaming. If he reads the thread, he'll know who he is.

I'll jump to the assumption it's me since seem to be the only one around here to use lighttpd

It's normal actually, combination of the player as well as the flv stream module for lighty, there's no way to tell lighty to stop sending data. Some players will support it by basically remembering the offset that they are at stream wise, and will drop the connection when you hit pause. When resuming play, it will do a new request for the stream starting from the point in the video you are up to the end.

Strictly speaking it is better to just have it download even while paused -- you're going to burn that bandwidth one way or the other. On a legal tube (which this one doesn't seem to be) the "wastage factor" is quite small since the clips aren't long. If you're aiming to be the next YouPorn, then you will have to get used to spending multiple thousands of $ per month on bandwidth.

[nate]

OK, the player drops the connection, then lighty can let the player restart its connection at the same point thanks to its streaming abilty... is that it?

Also, will the apache mod_flv or whatever its called do the same thing if the player makes the same set of calls?

Also, whats a "legal" tube as opposed to one that isnt? Are you referring to whether or not the content is licensed?

[MadCat]

Originally Posted by nate

OK, the player drops the connection, then lighty can let the player restart its connection at the same point thanks to its streaming abilty... is that it?

Also, will the apache mod_flv or whatever its called do the same thing if the player makes the same set of calls?

Also, whats a "legal" tube as opposed to one that isnt? Are you referring to whether or not the content is licensed?

Correct -- the player can tell lighty (or Apache with mod_flv for that matter) to start serving the movie from a given byte offset, e.g. start from 100.000 bytes in to the end. It's basically a function of the player.

The mod_flv streaming stuff basically enables some optimisations and some tricks on the server end of things to make serving flv files easier (sets up content types, does the accept-ranges things and so on).

Well, legal, might not have been the best term but more often than not tube sites with full length clips and a shitload of them at that (especially user submitted stuff) are using unlicensed content -- besides I still think tube sites that post anything > 5 minutes in length are shooting themselves in the foot something horrid but that wasn't the subject of the topic so I'll let that rest

[anasporn]

Originally Posted by MadCat

Well, legal, might not have been the best term but more often than not tube sites with full length clips and a shitload of them at that (especially user submitted stuff) are using unlicensed content -- besides I still think tube sites that post anything > 5 minutes in length are shooting themselves in the foot something horrid but that wasn't the subject of the topic so I'll let that rest

Not only content license, but if the owner or the host are inside the US there are 2257 documents to worry about as well.