Help with promoting Gay sites

[amber438]

I just have to put my 2 cents in here.
Gay is my number one niche by far. I've learned a lot from the board Lee mentioned (I lurk there all the time)

For me, well, personally I just LOVE men. and my sites must reflect that both from a female point of view as well as a gay male point of view. But I pick my niches well for me. I don't care for twinks at all but there is a market. Kind of like 18 plus girls or coeds if you will.

My thing is bears and jocks (muscle hunks!! YUMMY) I myself find that type attractive and this comes thru when I design a site and describe them. Gay dom/sub is another good niche as well as twink/daddy. I know shemales target str8 guys , but the str8 guys I talk to have no interest in looking at penis so who knows..I myself am fascinated with that niche..

Lee was right on the money with what he said in terms of gender specifics, etc. They are really marketed in similar ways. You just have to test the waters, read about the lifestyle and get relatively comfortable with it and then go with it. After all, you are in the adult business. IMHO, that means both tits and dick..right? am I wrong?

[Cleo]

I have to say most of what I promote doesn't turn me on and some of it pretty much grosses me out not to mention that I have pretty much complete disdain for most trannies which is my number one money maker.

That being said I try to climb into the skin of my target audience. I use Google a lot to get an idea of what it is that they find arousing and what terms to stay away from so that I don't insult anyone.

Basically it is about getting educated about what it is you are trying to sell. Doesn't matter if it is appliances, cars, maintenance contracts, burly men who love other men or men who live as woman who like to fuck other men in the ass.

When dealing with sexual desires and fetishes you need to put yourself into their mind set and try to see things as they do.

Another good way to learn about your target audience is to find Boards or Blogs where they hang out.

[DMc]

IMHO, both respectable attitudes from Amber438 and Cleo. Know your market...my sentiments exactly.

On a personal note, bears don't do much for me and jocks only if they're not too pumped (and I'm not referring to those vaccuum pumpers).

[amber438]

Originally posted by DMc
IMHO, both respectable attitudes from Amber438 and Cleo. Know your market...my sentiments exactly.

On a personal note, bears don't do much for me and jocks only if they're not too pumped (and I'm not referring to those vaccuum pumpers).

I'm not really fond of the Michelin man myself, but some of them...well...hehe

[docholly]

Originally posted by JenC
Do you think female webmasters like to do cumshots content? Do guys really think women want them to cum on their faces?

AMEN to that. I envision a whole generation of males who think cum goes on the face not in the mouth.

|raygun|

I have 3 signs above my desk:

Build Submit Build again

Breathe

and

$$'s are in the pics.

cuz 98% of the content isn't what i'd prefer to look at.

The other 2% is when i build sites for houseboy!!

Amber: Remember our pic exchanging days?? Ohh Look at this one!! Yummy..


You know this thread could be applied to most any niche. That's why some webmasters are more successful at selling BBW because they know surfers who really like bbw don't want them called Sloppy Whales etc.

|rasta|

[wesley]

As a gay WM I have to just say I find this all very funny, or point in fact, how str8 ones feel about doing gay sites I often feel about doing str8 ones. But I'll give you str8 boys a suggestion for dealing with the nude dudes. Just use solo guys, tastefully done. Then you're not seeing any more then you would in say a hardcore site. Plus think of the ad copy as you would for a female, just change the gender. example- horny blonde woman (guy) first time experiences caught on film.

PS we so hate being listed as a fetish or with tranny sites

[Cleo]

If I built for what gets me excited then I would be doing series pics of shopping malls.

On a side note I'm getting a little concerned about the fact that hardware stores are starting to do something for me.

[ponygirl]

hey cleo, I'm with you...I always thought that shoe fetish WAS a "for women" category

although, I have found it's funny just what niche you can end up doing well with...as a str8 female, for some reason I find those trannys quite facinating...and do well there so far so ya never know!

Ponygirl

[DMc]

Originally posted by Cleo
If I built for what gets me excited then I would be doing series pics of shopping malls.

On a side note I'm getting a little concerned about the fact that hardware stores are starting to do something for me.

LMAO

[tiny]

Originally posted by Cleo
If I built for what gets me excited then I would be doing series pics of shopping malls.

On a side note I'm getting a little concerned about the fact that hardware stores are starting to do something for me.

Must be all those shiny tools hahaha

[Kath]

Originally posted by Cleo
I have to say most of what I promote doesn't turn me on and some of it pretty much grosses me out not to mention that I have pretty much complete disdain for most trannies which is my number one money maker.

That being said I try to climb into the skin of my target audience. I use Google a lot to get an idea of what it is that they find arousing and what terms to stay away from so that I don't insult anyone.

Basically it is about getting educated about what it is you are trying to sell. Doesn't matter if it is appliances, cars, maintenance contracts, burly men who love other men or men who live as woman who like to fuck other men in the ass.

When dealing with sexual desires and fetishes you need to put yourself into their mind set and try to see things as they do.

Another good way to learn about your target audience is to find Boards or Blogs where they hang out.

Well said Cleo!

A lot of the "discussion" and "feelings" between straight and gay webmasters on this topic (which has been going on and on over the years) has its roots in R-E-S-P-E-C-T. This goes for both sides. I've met disrespectful as hell straight webmasters who put down the gay community yet boast about all the $$ they are making from gay sites... then again I've had run-ins with gay webmasters who were downright mean when asked simple lingo/etiquette questions about promoting gay sites by a straight webmaster.

I think the best advice is to learn as much as you can, find a source - like an online community or a friend who is active in the lifestyle pertaining to the market, genre or niche you are wanting to promote - and then use that advice & knowledge to build a quality, solid site.

You'll never be able to please all of the people all of the time - but having a good attitude and remembering to have respect for people who have different interests than you can really go a long way toward building a site that will sell.