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Old 2005-02-16, 02:04 PM   #1
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Iran Will Know How to Build Bomb in 6 Months

What I want to know is, who the hell are we (the US) to tell anyone what type of weapon any other country can build to protect themselves. I mean, the US is the only country to use these weapons. If anyone should not have these Weapons of Mass Destruction, shouldn't it be the people that have shown the willingness to use them?

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Old 2005-02-16, 02:27 PM   #2
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Isn't this the current plotline on The West Wing?
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Old 2005-02-16, 03:01 PM   #3
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I don't think anyone is really saying let them do what they want on west wing.
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Old 2005-02-16, 03:11 PM   #4
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Well if they nuke Israel then someone will nuke them and then there will be lots of nuking over there and it will become a big radioactive wasteland and then there will be no more land to fight over.

Providing that the earth is still survivable whoever is left might finally have world peace.

If things get really bad we could all move into deep mines.

I've Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. Doesn't anyone watch the movies?
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Old 2005-02-16, 03:25 PM   #5
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yes, but very few people in this generation know who Dr. Strangelove is, much less the satire behind that movie.
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Old 2005-02-16, 03:37 PM   #6
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Old 2005-02-16, 03:39 PM   #7
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If the entire region is nuked, how will we get the oil out?
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Old 2005-02-16, 03:50 PM   #8
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I guess we will just have to find something else to power our industrial existence of technological bliss.

We could always extract the oils from the bodies of the resulting giant mutant cockroaches that are living off of the corpses.

Since the oceans will probably be dead we will need to find an alternative food source. I hear that deceased people make a great food source called Soylent Green.
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Old 2005-02-16, 04:14 PM   #9
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what type of weapon any other country can build to protect themselves.
That makes the assumption that they would just use it to protect themselves, etc. Considering the general tension in the middle east is always present and waiting to explode it might be a good idea to not have it explode in a big mushroom.

Personally I've always believed the U.S. should have stuck to its isolationist policy and not give a crap what the rest of the world does. We would have saved ourselves a lot of grief and ill-will if we just stayed home.
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Old 2005-02-16, 04:16 PM   #10
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If the entire region is nuked, how will we get the oil out?
If Bugs Bunny can dig to China, I'm sure we can drill to Iraq from here. I'm surprised they haven't tried yet.
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What I want to know is, who the hell are we (the US) to tell anyone what type of weapon any other country can build to protect themselves.
Commie!

I'm so damned tired of our g'ment thinking it can pre-emptively act against other nations because we think we know what their intentions are. Even Bush Sr. waited for Saddam to enter (and rape) Kuwait before taking action. Everyone knew that ol' Saddam was mounting a huge force on the border, but we couldn't do anything until he invaded. But his son got the short end of the DNA strand, so were stuck with his ideas on how to treat the world. We're so completely screwed.

Another thought: If you lived in the Middle East, wouldn't you want some nuclear defenses too? Especially when a bunch of white dudes from the other side of the planet are knocking on your door.
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If I was the President, I would subscribe to Teddy Roosevelt's foreign policy "Speak softly and carry a big stick". Of course, like him I would probably hunt bear in the SexDelta
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Old 2005-02-16, 05:19 PM   #13
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I'm so damned tired of our g'ment thinking it can pre-emptively act against other nations because we think we know what their intentions are. Even Bush Sr. waited for Saddam to enter (and rape) Kuwait before taking action. Everyone knew that ol' Saddam was mounting a huge force on the border, but we couldn't do anything until he invaded. But his son got the short end of the DNA strand, so were stuck with his ideas on how to treat the world. We're so completely screwed.
Oh come on now. You mean you object to Bushie Jr. using the US military and billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars to fund a personal vendetta? |shocking|

Shit, at this point our "military might" is so spread out battling Bushie's demons that a thin layer wouldn't cover a slice of dry toast and I, for one, see no end in sight. Five billion dollars a month and all he's managed to do is get a lot of people killed and piss of a few hundred or thousand more with his ill-conceived speeches and half-assed, short-sighted, tunnel-vision ideologies.

At least I can honestly say, "Don't blame me... I voted for the other guy." Makes it a little easier to sleep at night anyway
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Old 2005-02-16, 07:01 PM   #14
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The funny thing about allof this is that Pakistan and India already have the weapons, as does Israel - as the old song goes:
One of the big news items of the past year concerned the fact that China, which we call Red China, exploded a nuclear bomb, which we called a device. Then Indonesia announced that it was gonna have one soon, and proliferation became the word of the day. Here's a song about that.

First we got the bomb and that was good,
'Cause we love peace and motherhood.
Then Russia got the bomb, but that's O.K.,
'Cause the balance of power's maintained that way!
Who's next?

France got the bomb, but don't you grieve,
'Cause they're on our side (I believe).
China got the bomb, but have no fears;
They can't wipe us out for at least five years!*
Who's next?

Then Indonesia claimed that they
Were gonna get one any day.
South Africa wants two, that's right:
One for the black and one for the white!**
Who's next?

Egypt's gonna get one, too,
Just to use on you know who.
So Israel's getting tense,
Wants one in self defense.
"The Lord's our shepherd," says the psalm,
But just in case, we better get a bomb!
Who's next?

Luxembourg is next to go
And, who knows, maybe Monaco.
We'll try to stay serene and calm
When Alabama gets the bomb!
Who's next, who's next, who's next?
Who's next?

For those of you too young too remember this guy - it was Tom Lehrer - math professor at MIT who got the boot about the same time Timothy Leary did for his experiments in the "psychedelic arts"
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Old 2005-02-16, 07:09 PM   #15
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Seriously though...you don't want to give Alabama the bomb, lol
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Old 2005-02-16, 07:43 PM   #16
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Well - I should posted more background (although its great to see how history repeats itself and get to live through it) this was the time of folk songs and anti-war in the early 60s - about the same time as the civil rights acts were finally getting passed (1964 is when it finally came to being) so there was a hell of a lot of tension back then in the southern states - another song he did:

One week of every year is designated National Brotherhood Week. During National Brotherhood Week various special events are arranged to drive home the message of brotherhood - this year, for example, on the first day of the week, Malcolm X was killed,* which gives you an idea of how effective the whole thing is.

I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another, and I know there are people in the world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! Here's a song about National Brotherhood Week.

Oh, the white folks hate the black folks,
And the black folks hate the white folks;
To hate all but the right folks
Is an old established rule.

But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
Lena Horne** and Sheriff Clark*** are dancing cheek to cheek.
It's fun to eulogize
The people you despise
As long as you don't let 'em in your school.

Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks,
And the rich folks hate the poor folks.
All of my folks hate all of your folks,
It's American as apple pie.

But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans 'cause it's very chic.
Step up and shake the hand
Of someone you can't stand,
You can tolerate him if you try!

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Moslems,
And everybody hates the Jews.

But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
It's National Everyone-Smile-At-One-Another-Hood Week.
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you.
It's only for a week, so have no fear;
Be grateful that it doesn't last all year!



Explanation on Sherrif Clark - he was the one responsible for many very violent arrests during civil rights unrest in Selma Alabama and Lena Horne was a very active voice back then in the civil rights movement.

Another song he did as a parody of the civil unrest back then:
(note poll taxes were what we used until the 24th amendment in 1964, to stop blacks from voting)
I wanna go back to Dixie,
Take me back to dear ol' Dixie,
That's the only li'l ol' place for li'l ol' me.
Old times there are not forgotten,
Whuppin' slaves and sellin' cotton,
And waitin' for the Robert E. Lee.
(It was never there on time.)

I'll go back to the Swanee,
Where pellagra makes you scrawny,
And the honeysuckle clutters up the vine.1
I really am a-fixin'
To go home and start a-mixin'
Down below that Mason-Dixon line.

Oh, poll tax2,
How I love ya, how I love ya,
My dear ol' poll tax.

Won'tcha come with me to Alabammy,
Back to the arms of my dear ol' Mammy,
Her cookin's lousy and her hands are clammy,
But what the hell, it's home.

Yes, for paradise the Southland is my nominee.
Jes' give me a ham hock and a grit of hominy.

I wanna go back to Dixie,
I wanna be a Dixie pixie
And eat corn pone3 till it's comin' outta my ears.4
I wanna talk with Southern gentlemen
And put that white sheet on again,5
I ain't seen one good lynchin' in years.

The land of the boll weevil,
Where the laws are medieval,
Is callin' me to come and nevermore roam.
I wanna go back to the Southland,
That "y'all" and "shet-ma-mouth" land,
Be it ever so decadent,
There's no place like home.



OK History lesson over - damn I feel old - 41 years ago and I remember it way too well
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Old 2005-02-16, 10:55 PM   #17
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the solution is easy.... the people in Iran that are building the nukes are "geeks" lets send them free porn and they will forget about WMD's..


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If Bugs Bunny can dig to China, I'm sure we can drill to Iraq from here. I'm surprised they haven't tried yet.
They have, they just keep taking the wrong turn at Alberkerky.
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