Hint Hint for free site submitters, blacklist issue

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by ronnie

I agree compeltely Pagan. There are many folks doing their best to do it the right way and do appreciate reject e-mails. Sad fact is, those are so far and few between, least in my experience. Out of maybe 50 e-mails, I am lucky to get one reply.

I personally dont blacklist people that easy, maybe I am being too nice. But somes times, some days when you wade through tons of crap, you just want to delete then all...

I really dont understand how so many people keep building and submitting sites, thats dont or wont get listed, just does'nt make sense to me. Seems like such a waste.

ronnie

i send them 3 times a email, 4 time its blacklist, lol it still makes me laugh what i see in the commenst, last time i had a submitter , if i would list her, she would send me a pic of her nipples......i dont wanna see a pic of nipples i see them all day and i am a woman i als dont wanna see a pic of dicks i also see those all day, send me a pic of homer and make me smile al i want is sites by the rules and looking nice

[Mr. Blue]

The thing is, I've learned more from rejection letters then I've learned from any other area. I submit mostly to TGP's, been doing that since the start, when I first started I was submitting using content from a sponsor that was overused. Since I had JUST entered the business I didn't know which sponsors were hated and overused. Well, luckily / happily, one tgp wrote back in the best kind of form letter imaginable. "overused content" and I scratched my head and the lightbulb flickered on. So I changed sponsors, I bought my content as well, and started building pages again.

One sponsor I tried I didn't realize they popped exit consoles from hell. Well, the webmaster at Captainporn.net was kind enough to drop an email, probably form mail, to say that the sponsor was like that. Well, another lesson given and I of course took it seriously and dropped the sponsor.

Well, I look at my stats everynight, lol, trust me I know where every hit is coming from...when I see 8 or 10 other LL's accepting my pages as Kosher and all having the same rules basically...it doesn't exactly ring the alarms that I've done something wrong elsewhere. All it does do is lull me into that cozy false sense of security

Seriously though a generic rejection email would really be appreciated by a noob webmaster. I know most of you guys have been doing this for awhile now and maybe take it for granted that people should just know what to do...but throwing someone on a blacklist because they used a 755 pixel table instead of a 750 pixel table seems harsh. Also troubling from the fact that one of the 755 pixel table pages were accept in the past.

This blacklist is shared by more then one site? If this were just a blacklist for one LinkList...well I probably just wouldn't submit to that 1 list and move on...but since it is shared and blacklisting will effect a person well beyond this 1 site...so it would be nice if a person is notified, even if its a generic email that says "Fucktard your blacklisted"...at least it would be something.

*Mr. Blue scurries back to the land of TGP's*

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

The thing is, I've learned more from rejection letters then I've learned from any other area. I submit mostly to TGP's, been doing that since the start, when I first started I was submitting using content from a sponsor that was overused. Since I had JUST entered the business I didn't know which sponsors were hated and overused. Well, luckily / happily, one tgp wrote back in the best kind of form letter imaginable. "overused content" and I scratched my head and the lightbulb flickered on. So I changed sponsors, I bought my content as well, and started building pages again.

One sponsor I tried I didn't realize they popped exit consoles from hell. Well, the webmaster at Captainporn.net was kind enough to drop an email, probably form mail, to say that the sponsor was like that. Well, another lesson given and I of course took it seriously and dropped the sponsor.

Well, I look at my stats everynight, lol, trust me I know where every hit is coming from...when I see 8 or 10 other LL's accepting my pages as Kosher and all having the same rules basically...it doesn't exactly ring the alarms that I've done something wrong elsewhere. All it does do is lull me into that cozy false sense of security

Seriously though a generic rejection email would really be appreciated by a noob webmaster. I know most of you guys have been doing this for awhile now and maybe take it for granted that people should just know what to do...but throwing someone on a blacklist because they used a 755 pixel table instead of a 750 pixel table seems harsh. Also troubling from the fact that one of the 755 pixel table pages were accept in the past.

This blacklist is shared by more then one site? If this were just a blacklist for one LinkList...well I probably just wouldn't submit to that 1 list and move on...but since it is shared and blacklisting will effect a person well beyond this 1 site...so it would be nice if a person is notified, even if its a generic email that says "Fucktard your blacklisted"...at least it would be something.

*Mr. Blue scurries back to the land of TGP's*

i understand your feelings, thats one of the reason i posted the link, because not all linksite email the rejection, so ones in awhile check your domains and emails in that list and you will be save

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

al i want is sites by the rules and looking nice

Exactly.

ronnie

[Jel]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

if i would list her, she would send me a pic of her nipples......

Send her over to me lol

[Rayzor]

Thanks for the heads up about this thread Jel. It seems that i have got myself blacklisted, for using or rather over using templates.

I've been doing this a few years too, and also run a link list and so i know how irritating it is to get sites that break the rules submitted everyday. Going through submissions is pretty dull at the best of times, but if i don't like a site i reject it, occasionally i put a comment in the return email to say why. I don't blacklist people unless they really break the rules.

I also agree that it would be nice to be told you're blacklisted and interesting to know who by.

As for people reading the emails, i assume a lot are like me. I submit to 100 LL's, 5 sites per week and i come home to over 120 emails every day and scan through them pretty fast. My eyes will probably pick out comments from the background text but often 3 pertinent words can be hidden amongst a lot of the normal filler text and i'll miss it. this doesn't make me a bad person it just makes me a real busy person that has to do stuff quick to fit it in.

The same with submitting. When you have a list of lots of sites to submit to and 1% of them might not like a particular site that day and the rest are fine with it. it is easier to submit to the whole lot and let them list or not at their discretion.

I take the point about templates and i'll try to vary them a lot more, but a certain amount of design overlap is inevitable. I'm kind of like Picasso- just stuck in a Blue Period.

Oh, well. off to the day job now. See you all later.

Rayzor