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2005-03-05, 03:08 PM
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Took the hint.
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The worst part is that the guy who actually did the deed (drunk driving causing bodily injury) gets off for 200k... You would think that the court would see that the beer seller isn't any more responsible for what happened than the car maker who builds their cars capable of being driven by intoxicated people - you would think they would have a breathalizer in every car.
Would a drug dealer be held criminally liable for the actions of the same guy if he was high on coke instead? Whacked out on speed? Nope. The beer seller cannot be more liable while selling a legal product than someone would be selling an illegal one. Alex |
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2005-03-06, 07:17 AM
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NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them.
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Believe it or not - when I owned a large bar in Virginia back in 1980s we had to have liability insurance for just this type of legal suit - and it not only had to cover me but my bartenders as well. At least in Virginia, the bartender is responsible for not serving a drink to anyone that "appears to be intoxicated" LOL
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2005-03-06, 06:39 PM
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Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert
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Same here in Indiana, Linkster. As a bartender...though a nearly retired one, thank God...I am liable. It is against the law for me to serve anyone that is intoxicated. And if I serve someone and they go out and kill themselves or someone else, then I am legally liable. |
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2005-03-06, 08:25 PM
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NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them.
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In my opinion (just mine evidently) there should be personal responsibility for all of the actions that lead to the bad things - and lawyers should not be able to make a living suing people for these types of personal "choices". They made the choice to drink irresponsibly, therefore they make the choice to drive without regard to anyone else - the funny part is, they can run down a car in the oncoming traffic, continue to live, kill all the kids in an oncoming car, and the bar gets sued. This is all based on suits that the MADD made a long time ago when this whole issue came about.
I made my money for college working in bars, so Im a little biased, but when I was 16, I carried kegs of beer between coolers and a huge disco's bars to make a few bucks, saw many college kids that got totally wasted on 5 cent drafts - and of course back then the drinking age was 18 or lower if you had a draft card that you could alter to show that you were 18 - there was no DUI laws at the time so these kids would get totalled - and then go out and kill others out on the road. There were no lawsuits back then against drivers, bars or anyone for that matter - except lying presidents that broke into their opponents offices  (that was a few years later)I still remember turning 18, getting so wasted on my birthday that the bartenders had to carry me to my car on M Street in Georgetown Wash DC, put me in and they turned on the car - the next thing I remember was sitting in the middle lane of Wisconsin Ave uptown by the Natl Cathedral with a cop banging on the window asking me if I was ok - he recognized me cause we used to give the cops 6 packs for their shifts out the back door - so he followed me home to make sure I could make it |
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