Calling all honest linklist owners, I have something special for you.

[Adult Traffic]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

That does bring up a good point - post some URL's that weren't listed & let me take a look at them

I PM you one because I don't really like to post my stuff in public, but what the hell, I don't care.

Everyone, list them in your blacklist.

http://chloe-18.net/teen_sites/chloe...te/index.shtml
http://chloe-18.net/teen_sites/small...ts/index.shtml


http://www.teen-topenga.com/teen_sit...es/index.shtml
http://www.teen-topenga.com/teen_sit...te/index.shtml


http://www.trixyteen.net/teen_sites/...rs/index.shtml
http://www.trixyteen.net/teen_sites/...be/index.shtml

[swedguy]

Originally Posted by Adult Traffic

I PM you one because I don't really like to post my stuff in public, but what the hell, I don't care.

Everyone, list them in your blacklist.

http://chloe-18.net/teen_sites/chloe...te/index.shtml
http://chloe-18.net/teen_sites/small...ts/index.shtml


http://www.teen-topenga.com/teen_sit...es/index.shtml
http://www.teen-topenga.com/teen_sit...te/index.shtml


http://www.trixyteen.net/teen_sites/...rs/index.shtml
http://www.trixyteen.net/teen_sites/...be/index.shtml

I just checked 2 of them (A Teen Topanga and Trixy Teeen) and I would probably not list either.

1. Too many outgoing links (your own links that are included in the recip table)
2. Not clearly marked gallery links. I didn't find them until I clicked around on the links that I though it might be.
3. 28 recips is a TAD much

[Adult Traffic]

Originally Posted by swedguy

I just checked 2 of them (A Teen Topanga and Trixy Teeen) and I would probably not list either.

1. Too many outgoing links (your own links that are included in the recip table)
2. Not clearly marked gallery links. I didn't find them until I clicked around on the links that I though it might be.
3. 28 recips is a TAD much

Well then they're shit.

At least someone could tell me, I'd pull their recip and go on about submitting to sites that didn't think the same way.

That's all I ask.

If they're too shitty to list they're too shitty to have your link on, right?

[swedguy]

Originally Posted by Adult Traffic

Well then they're shit.

At least someone could tell me, I'd pull their recip and go on about submitting to sites that didn't think the same way.

That's all I ask.

If they're too shitty to list they're too shitty to have your link on, right?

They're not shit, they just don't follow most link lists rules.


I don't say that this is the case for you, but I'm just going to say how I work

If my site got accepted at 90-95% of the LL's, I don't worry about the 5-10% that it didn't get listed at. It was most likely that they had enough of those kind of sites, overused content etc.

If only 50% accepted it, then I have done something seriously wrong. I would post the site on this board and get tips from other what the error might be or ask a friend that also does free sites, just to get a second opinion. Or just read couple of LL's rules and then try to look at my site again and see what I might have done wrong. Ask others never hurt

I don't expect anyone else to tell me what I've done wrong. If I posted to the link lists and they didn't list me, then I probably broke one of their rules and I need to go back and look what I can do better for my next site. But it sure is appreciated when someone tells me what's wrong, it saves me time. But that means I took time away from them, even tough I was the one that made the error.

[CybrFire]

I gotta agree with Swedguy...the gallery links were a little hard to find and too many outgoing links. BUT, if you could redo the layout so joe surfer could look at it once and locate the gallery links, then it wouldn't be a problem. All the links you provided pretty much looked the same...if you've got alot of differant templates to use, then you can add me in to your list of places to submit to. I'm not a GG or Penisbot traffic-wise (working on it...maybe someday soon), but I'll still list you.

As per the recip table, if you could cut it down to 12-15, then not a problem. See my sig below for both of my sites to submit to. And I do send out accept/reject emails and even take the time to point out problems etc., with submits.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Adult Traffic

I PM you one because I don't really like to post my stuff in public, but what the hell, I don't care....

I think I was replying to you PM when you posted this



swedguy - that's what I told him too, plus a little more

[Adult Traffic]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

swedguy - that's what I told him too, plus a little more

Can I post the problems/responses from the PM here?

[Adult Traffic]

Well, I wanted to ask first.

Originally Posted by GG

MrMaryLou reviewed this one but I think I can tell at least a few of the reasons we declined it:

1 - 28 recips might be a tad bit too many - plus having that many make them look rather small. I tend to go with 12-15 per site when I build

2 - the last row in the recip table, we consider those towards the "3 banners/ads" since they are not trades with Link Lists

3 - just form a design POV, I'd move the HPA above the recips

4 - what's with the thumbs on the bottom that are not linked? (that sets off bells with us because we tend to think that people will put links on them after we list the site)

5 - it did take me a bit to find the gallery links, mostly because one was up in the corner & the other is in the middle of the page with not text other than the link.

6 - your galleries have a serious lack of nudity

Thanks

Well, I don't really know how to build freesites, these are the first ones. Thanks for looking.

Let me explain my reasoning. No reason I can't change things.

1) I thought that's what everyone wanted, to be on the page with everyone else.

2) Ok. I can take them off. I just wanted to feed them SE hits.

3) I thought everyone wanted their links first. I thought they all wanted to be before the enter (or sponsor) link. I thought they would like to have first shot at the surfer before the ad.

4) They have alt tags. Also, look at the image name (properties) of them. That's all. I can remove them.

5) I know they are there for content. That's what's wrong with the broken TGP model. I don't really want them looking at my pics. I know they want to, but I want them to have to hunt for them. I want to make them look at my ads, not be banner blind.

6) I know. I want them to pay me to see naked girls. This is a business Totals: 4242 - 9 - 1:471 - $119.75 (50% revshare) on pure gallery traffic .

[swedguy]

Originally Posted by Adult Traffic

5) I know they are there for content. That's what's wrong with the broken TGP model. I don't really want them looking at my pics. I know they want to, but I want them to have to hunt for them. I want to make them look at my ads, not be banner blind.

6) I know. I want them to pay me to see naked girls. This is a business Totals: 4242 - 9 - 1:471 - $119.75 (50% revshare) on pure gallery traffic

You have to see it from the link list owners point of view too. He/she is the one that has the traffic.

5,6. If the surfer (that came from the link list) can't find the content, he will not be a happy camper. Imagine him running into 20 sites like that at the same LL, do you think he will came back to that LL? Nope, he will go to another place where he can actually find sites with pics.
You can still sell and yet provide content for the surfer/LL. Don't hide anything or do any tricks.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Adult Traffic

Well, I wanted to ask first.

Thanks

Well, I don't really know how to build freesites, these are the first ones. Thanks for looking.

That's part of the reason we are here - we can help you before AND after you submit, especially before for those that are new to Free Sites

Let me explain my reasoning. No reason I can't change things.

1) I thought that's what everyone wanted, to be on the page with everyone else.

I think my rules say that I'd like to see at least 5 other Link Lists. 12-15 is usually fine, 28 is too many IMHO & just dilutes them. Remember, it's a traffic trade

2) Ok. I can take them off. I just wanted to feed them SE hits.

Make a hub, link to it in with the recips, list the Free Site on the hub, filter traffic back & forth

3) I thought everyone wanted their links first. I thought they all wanted to be before the enter (or sponsor) link. I thought they would like to have first shot at the surfer before the ad.

I'm happy as long as the link is above the "enter" link so people can see it.

4) They have alt tags. Also, look at the image name (properties) of them. That's all. I can remove them.

Silly SE trickery

5) I know they are there for content. That's what's wrong with the broken TGP model. I don't really want them looking at my pics. I know they want to, but I want them to have to hunt for them. I want to make them look at my ads, not be banner blind.

But you have to remember that we as Link List owners want our surfers to be happy & able to find things & whatnot.

6) I know. I want them to pay me to see naked girls. This is a business Totals: 4242 - 9 - 1:471 - $119.75 (50% revshare) on pure gallery traffic So sign up here now

Spammer

Do these reasons I gave you make at least a little bit of sense?

[Adult Traffic]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Do these reasons I gave you make at least a little bit of sense?

Yes. I really thought it was a kick ass site(s) but I see they need some work.