Can anyone say "scrubbing"? (funny yet disurbing email)

[basschick]

i have used my epassporte virtual visa to buy video editing programs, and a few other thing, but it doesn't work for anything high-risk (which means adult).

if you can't use it for anything, maybe you should contact epoch.

Originally Posted by Lunatic

I don't know if this belongs in another thread, but I can't use my ePassporte virtual Visa with CCBill at any merchant even though I've never had problems with the account and my balance is high enough.
Paycom, Epoch, iBill, etc. all will accept the same card number and info. How many sales are lost by not having alternate or cascade billing?

[ronnie]

I think if we knew how many sales we lose to scrubbing we would be more than bummed.

I agree there should be other billing options, paypal types, but I have yet to see one that is instant set up. The surfer is'nt going to wait till they get approved, they will just move on to another site that will take their money instantly.

ronnie

[Opti]

Originally Posted by ronnie

I think if we knew how many sales we lose to scrubbing we would be more than bummed.

... very bummed.



That sounds interesting about the epassporte redirect HarryMuff.. nice feature.

What's the site name?

[Rand]

Originally Posted by ronnie

I think if we knew how many sales we lose to scrubbing we would be more than bummed.

Yeah that may be true. But it's not a perfect world. If it were and everyone was honest you wouldn't need a payment processor to approve or decline a transaction.

If it weren't for the risky transactions being declined, you wouldn't be able to stay in business.

[Opti]

Originally Posted by Rand

Yeah that may be true. But it's not a perfect world. If it were and everyone was honest you wouldn't need a payment processor to approve or decline a transaction.

If it weren't for the risky transactions being declined, you wouldn't be able to stay in business.

Hey Rand,

Do you see any evidence of decline percentages shooting up recently?

Would adult sites having 50%-70% of CC transactions declined sound unusual in your experience?

[Rand]

Originally Posted by Opti

Hey Rand,

Do you see any evidence of decline percentages shooting up recently?

Would adult sites having 50%-70% of CC transactions declined sound unusual in your experience?

There is no indication of an across-the-board increase in declines. Individual programs may experience increases from time to time if they have a bad affiliate attempting to send fraudulant transactions through a program.

And in terms of the percentage of declined transactions... that varies. I can see how a program could see declines that high.

[ronnie]

Originally Posted by Rand

Yeah that may be true. But it's not a perfect world. If it were and everyone was honest you wouldn't need a payment processor to approve or decline a transaction.

If it weren't for the risky transactions being declined, you wouldn't be able to stay in business.

Oh I agree, there are far too many scammers. And I agree, there needs to be some protocol's in place. But we also know good cards get turned down far to often. Then again, I am not a processor, I'm sure it is a thin line.

ronnie

[Toby]

Originally Posted by ronnie

I think if we knew how many sales we lose to scrubbing we would be more than bummed.

I had a sponsor tell me that their sales increased 30% when they implemented cascading billing. Bummed indeed

[Lunatic]

Originally Posted by basschick

i have used my epassporte virtual visa to buy video editing programs, and a few other thing, but it doesn't work for anything high-risk (which means adult).

if you can't use it for anything, maybe you should contact epoch.

I've tried to join a few adult sites with my ePassporte virtual visa, and if they have Paycom as an alternative processor or part of their cascading billing the transaction is approved even if CCBill just denied the transaction. Since I've never had a problem with the virtual Visa, I don't know why CCBill would turn me down. I'll contact Epoch and CCBill and see what they say.