general comments / questions from a newb

[chuckiepoo]

I'm thawing out some kielbasa now. It's about 2.5 inches in diameter. Can't wait to throw it into some sauerkraut. (spelling?)

[nub]

I'm thawing out some kielbasa now. It's about 2.5 inches in diameter. Can't wait to throw it into some sauerkraut. (spelling?)

Thawing? wow.... that almost sounds sacrilege i guess im just lucky enough to live in an area where you can get polish sausage made fresh or smoked daily. now for some more polish fun, today we'll be out at the bars celebratein Dyngus Day. (pretty much the polish st pattys day)


but enough talk of my sausage.

we ran our little tpg site test and everything went fine. no major surprises. next is testing some of our own gallery software.

on the content front, i have a few interviews with some amateur models. i resisted the temptation of going to stripclubs to ask girls, or calling modeling agencies. (thanks to the advise on many posts on the subject) so were going with 'friends of a friend' who have shown previous interest. in case anyones wondering, we're going after the non-nude over 18 niche market.

so, hopefully in a few months, with a couple of content sites in place, some tgp and ll work to steer traffic around and a little piece of unique software we are lauching soon, we should be slowly moving on up.

i forsee many long nites and headaches ahead.. wish me luck

[Useless]

Originally Posted by nub

i resisted the temptation of going to stripclubs to ask girls.

One should never resist the temptation to watch naked women dance.

Just a little business advice.

[nub]

One should never resist the temptation to watch naked women dance.

i never said i didnt go.. i just resisted the temptation to ask

[blind]

nub are you Pole? I see you know a bit of us

[nub]

polish through and through.. still call my grandmother babcia, my grandfather dzadza... etc..

[frankthetank]

Originally Posted by chuckiepoo

I'm thawing out some kielbasa now. It's about 2.5 inches in diameter. Can't wait to throw it into some sauerkraut. (spelling?)

Sauerkraut = correct

[nub]

To answer your question. Starting a paysite is not as easy nowadays as it used to be. Some "non nude models" won´t make it, I´m afraid. First thing is that you have to convince them doing porn, not an easy part.

Reading is one thing, doing it another. If I were you, I would try something traffic building before launching a paysite.

A nice thing to learn about paysites is building one with deluxepass or another one like them. there you can try out what will work without high costs.

great points frankthetank.

we are going with 2 models to start. they were comfortable going the full nude route, so convincing them that taking a step back and doing non-nude will work for them (i personally wouldnt use them for non-nude if i didnt think they had the talent to pull it off)

my programmer is currently playing with the building traffic model to see if we can stand on our own 2 feet. (not falling over yet)

as far as going with deluxepass or adultcheck... how different is the business model than doing it on your own?
any advice on the subject would be aweseome.

we have no 'real' timeframe as far as when we need to see money coming in. were piggybacking on our already existing hosting costs (we host our own sites), and until the traffic dictates we need to move to a dedicated server, etc.. we wont allow the additional expense. the programming and design work is all on our own time. the only 'cost' i forsee coming up is the setup of our pay accounts, and paying the models to shoot (which we are doing ourselves as well)

we trying to build this thing slowly so we dont burn out our time and pocketbooks.
were going to try and roll this thing out so it pays for itself as it goes, if we make profit on it in the first 6 months to a year? kool.. if not.. fine, as long as we dont lose more than the time spent on it.

[frankthetank]

Originally Posted by nub

great points frankthetank.

as far as going with deluxepass or adultcheck... how different is the business model than doing it on your own?
any advice on the subject would be aweseome.

Deluxepass offers hosting, billing and content. They offer an affiliate program, too. So you can build a site, let a designer make the site, tours and galleries. You don´t have to worry about the content, though you can put own content on your website as well.

I started with a webcam community in Europe, totally different from the US market. For example: an average of 32 user per day generates about 1200 € per month. This is of course not what the webmaster earns.

So I built a deluxepass site and I´m watching it for a while, learning about US market. First thing I learned was that you need a much higher amount of visitors to generate even one sale.

Models are important, of course. But first you have to decide which content you want to produce. For example it is not the same thing to get a model into b/g scene as into a watersports one.

If you want to build a site around one single model, the girl must have something special. But there you are in danger that the model will quit her job, so you have to have enough content to update your site for some time.

The big boys offer a great variety of niches, so your paysite must be different from the mainstream sites unless you are able to offer diversification, too.

So I think playing around with a little site isn´t the worst idea befoore you are building a big own paysite.

http://webmasters.pornaccess.com/

http://www.deluxepass.com/webmasters/index.php

http://www.adultbouncer.com/webmasters.php