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Old 2005-04-18, 10:17 AM   #1
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Old 2005-04-18, 03:20 PM   #2
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LOL

Some people have short memories.

It was the Clinton administration that bombed the fuck out of Kosovo (for no reason whatsoever - and dont give me that bullshit about muslim genocide - Kosovo was and is Serbian) and that same administration sold WMD to Afganistan creating the mess that is today between Pakistan and India.
That same adminstration failed to heed the warnings from Libya regarding Osama as well as directly responsible for the mess that is the West Bank today.
As far as the higher oil prices, well have you thought that a couple of countries with burgeoning populations such as India and China might have something to do with the skyrocketing costs of oil and gas? They are the 2 BIGGEST consumers of oil and gas and you can't blame Bush for that. Every other think tank around the world seems to think so.

As far as the huge deficit, that's just a direct result of trying to put democracy in countries such as Iraq. You see, most of those middle eastern countries have far too many dick wads in high positions that threaten the existence of Americans and democratic thinking people around the world. If you can't see that democracy in muslim nations will bring peace to not only the middle east, but the ENTIRE planet, well then you are simply turning a blind eye.

Its so easy to express an opinion when you either don't have all the facts or you just simply don't care to tell the truth.

And Kenny B., since you are Canadian, dont get me started on the joke that is the Liberal Party! They have committed so many acts of malicious crimes to the good citizens of this country, they still have the audacity to point the finger at Stephen Harper, like EVERYTHING is HIS fault.

And as for you Moby, I respect some of the points that you are trying to make. Those of us that DO have IQ's higher than 50 do know that even people like you tend to forget.
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Old 2005-04-20, 06:41 PM   #3
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Pornex, a joke is a joke. It doesn’t matter who you vote for someone will always make fun of your choice. Like I said, some people do like the way things are today. Some like the way things were before W.

Just because I don’t support the current military action doesn’t mean I haven’t supported many others. I also understand the economy was on a down turn when W took over and some things were not in his favor. That said I do prefer the better standard of living that more Americans had 8 years ago.


I have no idea why you brought up some of these issues unless it’s to avoid the current stats vs. the past stats but I think some of your statements are wrong and others are misleading.

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It was the Clinton administration that bombed the fuck out of Kosovo (for no reason whatsoever
Don’t you remember who’s daddy sent the troops to the region before Clinton was in office? Not blaming daddy Bush for this either since about half of the world and most of the UN wanted something to happen there.

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that same administration sold WMD to Afganistan creating the mess that is today between Pakistan and India.
I could be misinformed but what exactly was sold? Didn’t the mess start in Kashmir around 1990 when the guerillas started their cleansing raids? The tensions have been going for centuries and US policy doesn’t have a lot to do with that. Although I’m not a big fan of his economic policy towards India, I do think W is handling relations with Pakistan and India quite nicely.

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They are the 2 BIGGEST consumers of oil and gas and you can't blame Bush for that.
Did you hear this in a bar, read it somewhere or just make it up? Come on, the USA still is the BIGGEST consumer of oil and gas.

China passed Japan last year because their auto production was up by about 70%. You know they’re getting huge amounts of money from the USA. India is using more oil as well but they’re not one of the 2 or 3 biggest as you state above. Where do you think China and India is suddenly getting all this money to boost their economies any way?

Can you name one major conflict in the Middle East (in the last 20 or 30 years) that did not cause oil prices to raise?

The good think tanks usually mention a few factors, war, new demand, trade deficit, hurricanes in our gulf and US investment in foreign countries. Most of these can be heavily influenced by the administration. That doesn’t mean the administration should but they can.

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As far as the huge deficit, that's just a direct result of trying to put democracy in countries such as Iraq.
Wasn’t the deficit estimated around 660 Billion last year? OK, 85 Billion slated for the war, let’s say the same amount slated for Home Land Security. Doesn’t that still leave about 500 Billion dollars? I’ve seen a lot of different numbers so my number may be off but not that far off to change the fact that most of the deficit has nothing to do with keeping peace.


You have the right to take a joke for what it’s worth or be offended by it. That’s your choice. Please don’t forget, Osama was trained by the US decades ago and he is NOT related to Saddam in any way shape or form.

Let's just make some porn.
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Old 2005-04-20, 07:23 PM   #4
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Pornex, a joke is a joke.
My name is PORNREX. When you can get THAT right, come back and we'll pool our respective insights on this and any other matter you want to talk about.

I really think your whole-hearted acceptance of the Western media's take on everything you see, should even make you stop and think before you express your opinions. CNN is NOT the only source of information on earth.

Alot of things can be said for just about anything in these chaotic times and I don't dispute that you or anybody else could contribute to this or anything remotely similar to this topic. The truth shall come out one day - and nobody is innocent except the little people dying on anyside of GREED.

With that said, yeah, lets just make some porn!
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