The shitstorm scenario of 2257

[Kinky]

anybody who has ever gotten a surfer e-mail begging for info on a specific model knows what you are saying... some people get ruthless just thru e-mail... but i've said it before and i'll say it again... porn actors/actresses are the equivalent of dirt to the religious right wing that is pushing all of the anti-obscene bullshit, they are sinners and should all roast in hell

Never thought a lot of you Boogie, until now.

RESPECT.

[Boogie]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

Never thought a lot of you Boogie, until now.

RESPECT.

thanks brother, always admired you and your work

to hear it from a respected content producer like yourself means a lot.

Originally Posted by Boogie

thanks brother, always admired you and your work

to hear it from a respected content producer like yourself means a lot.

No need to thank me you deserve it.

If there was more people prepared to stand up we would not have our backs to the wall.

[MrYum]

Looks like perhaps things are heading in the right direction...

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=20955

Saw a post on another board...thought this was the perfect place to mention it on this board...

IF someone DOES get dragged in...putting together a defense fund should help. I'd definitely contribute!

Frankly, that's my biggest concern about this crap. I have no doubt it will be tossed out of court if anyone is busted. BUT, financially something like this could break an individual pretty fuckin quick.

IF we as a community contributed til it hurt...if need be...we'd make a much more formidable foe in court. Especially if the ACLU gets involved...this 'should' be a slam dunk!

Hell, if that wasn't a concern...I'd be right there beside ya Boogie. For that matter...if more folks agree to a defense fund...I am! LOL!

I'd even leave all several hundred of my free sites live and intact. Be happy to provide links to any owners who don't already have em...get more exposure to the sites don't yanno

[Stever]

Sounds to me like the US industry will slowly move out of the US. The small, medium and big webmasters in Canada and Europe will benefit. Demand for online porn will never diminish but fewer Americans will be supplying it. US webmasters with the resources and willingness to do so, will likely move to Canada where they can continue to run their buisness as if nothing happened.

Sorry guys but I think the USA is in an overall sad state with the Bush administration and the power he lends to the christian right. Not to mention its forien policy and protectionist trade policies. How will america react to the fact that it will soon no longer be the worlds economic superpower. Lookout here comes China.

but i digress from 2257 discussions

[MrYum]

Boogie...give em hell! Seriously man, very well said...props

RawAlex...sad to fuckin say it...really is...that this shit could actually happen in 2005...but you're right on all counts

That's exactly what this is about...cleansing the net of the filthy pornographers. When the hell did sex become a bad thing? When did sexual pleasure become obscene?

The religious right has got to be put in check. What IS obscene is that this is even an issue.

The seperation of church and state needs some reminding...

I still don't see this standing...but does look like thar's gonna be a rumble

[tickler]

Originally Posted by kinky

anybody who has ever gotten a surfer e-mail begging for info on a specific model knows what you are saying... some people get ruthless just thru e-mail... but i've said it before and i'll say it again... porn actors/actresses are the equivalent of dirt to the religious right wing that is pushing all of the anti-obscene bullshit, they are sinners and should all roast in hell

Not just email. I am always getting hits from forums were they are asking "Who is this model and how to I get in contact".

[MrYum]

Arghhh...can't sleep...

What suprises me more than anything about this is how many major programs made massive changes instead of fighting. One would think that these companies should have the financial resources to fight this out.

So what happens when the injunctions are granted?

Or, a prosecution is thrown out of court?

Back to biz as usual? Or, are the programs going to leave their new systems in place?

IF the DOJ really wants to look up a model ID, I implemented something on my new sites that launched this morning.

http://www.real-girls.biz/2257/061305/1/

Paul, you'll be glad to notice it's your content

I've provided the specific set ID information AND the original custodian of records. If an investigating agency needs to see the model info...grab a warrant and trot your ass on over to the original producer. The individual who saw the model...saw the ID's and produced the images.

Ok...back to bed...

Originally Posted by tickler

Not just email. I am always getting hits from forums were they are asking "Who is this model and how to I get in contact".

We had a real bad one last year, he wanted to meet her to pay for her college tuition and be her friend, take her on holiday, etc. Had to watch every person who was buying her content for months.

Eventually got his address and got his door knocked on by a friend. Scared the shit out of him.

Originally Posted by MrYum

Arghhh...can't sleep...

What suprises me more than anything about this is how many major programs made massive changes instead of fighting. One would think that these companies should have the financial resources to fight this out.

So what happens when the injunctions are granted?

Or, a prosecution is thrown out of court?

Back to biz as usual? Or, are the programs going to leave their new systems in place?

IF the DOJ really wants to look up a model ID, I implemented something on my new sites that launched this morning.

http://www.real-girls.biz/2257/061305/1/

Paul, you'll be glad to notice it's your content

I've provided the specific set ID information AND the original custodian of records. If an investigating agency needs to see the model info...grab a warrant and trot your ass on over to the original producer. The individual who saw the model...saw the ID's and produced the images.

Ok...back to bed...

They do not need a warrant to see my records, just need to turn up. They can also see how we cross reference all our models on our sites. This 2257 law meant the only work we had to do was supply it to all the people who suddenly had their HDs frazzle over the weekend

[Useless]

You da man Boogster!

I have, as of yet, not pulled a single pic because I'm hoping that the sponsors who have demanded the removal of certain content come to their senses before it's too late. If it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be pulling a damned thing. Everyone has different threshholds for risk. Mine is very high, but then again, I have nothing to lose. And don't anyone come here telling me that I could go to jail. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

[ArtWilliams]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

You da man Boogster!

I have, as of yet, not pulled a single pic because I'm hoping that the sponsors who have demanded the removal of certain content come to their senses before it's too late. If it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be pulling a damned thing. Everyone has different threshholds for risk. Mine is very high, but then again, I have nothing to lose. And don't anyone come here telling me that I could go to jail. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

Certainly there is no reason to pull anything until the 23rd. I scratch my head when I see the thread of people requesing links to be pulled. If an injunction is granted then what are they going to do, resubmit all their sites? Yeah, if I were a LL owner I'd be REAL happy about that!

---art

[tickler]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

Eventually got his address and got his door knocked on by a friend. Scared the shit out of him.

Got a few friends like that.

One used to be in the nasty section of the special forces, and setting next to him in a restaurant while he teases the local SWAT team from the cop shop across the street can be nerve racking.