2257 Spit Take - The Christian view

[SirMoby]

I would like an explination of this statement.

"One person sneaking a peak late at night is not a solitary thing, but it affects whole communities."

I would really love to hear the thought process that leads to this way of thinking. I believe this thoguht process is very dangerous. My understanding of this thought process is that leads to cruelty that only humans can justify.

Since few people that actually have this mind set are willing to rationally explain it then I guess I will have to continue on with my own thoughts.

[mrMagoo]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

I would like an explination of this statement.

"One person sneaking a peak late at night is not a solitary thing, but it affects whole communities."

I would really love to hear the thought process that leads to this way of thinking. I believe this thoguht process is very dangerous. My understanding of this thought process is that leads to cruelty that only humans can justify.

Since few people that actually have this mind set are willing to rationally explain it then I guess I will have to continue on with my own thoughts.

You are right. There is no attempt to rationally explain it since it is not a rational statement to explain, but an irrational statement to persuade absent any facts.

I remember reading an article in a college paper written by a college girl. She said that her boyfriend's enjoyment of online porn ruined their relationship.

She then went on to attack women who do porn, stating that it was terrible because the only people who viewed such filth were dirty old men who never bathed.

Was that what her boyfriend was, a dirty old man who never bathed?

If this is what passes for debate or presentation of ideas and arguements in college these days we are all in trouble.

[serenity]

Originally Posted by mrMagoo

You are right. There is no attempt to rationally explain it since it is not a rational statement to explain, but an irrational statement to persuade absent any facts.

I remember reading an article in a college paper written by a college girl. She said that her boyfriend's enjoyment of online porn ruined their relationship.

She then went on to attack women who do porn, stating that it was terrible because the only people who viewed such filth were dirty old men who never bathed.

Was that what her boyfriend was, a dirty old man who never bathed?

If this is what passes for debate or presentation of ideas and arguements in college these days we are all in trouble.

I got an email from a chick last year who told me to stay away from her fiancee. I was "corrupting" him with my dirty pornographic website (I only show my boobs).

She said I was a shame to all womenkind and that I must be a sad, pathetic woman with low self esteem to do what I do. And, what kind of Christian was I to try and take her man.

Take her man, ain't that a hoot. Never mind that it was her Christian man who paid $29.95 to see my nekkid boobs.

I guess all us man stealin', sad, pathetic women, with low self esteem, who are in the porn industry must be baaaad Christians. (gasp) Maybe even children of the

I guess she caught him wacking off or something.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by serenity

I got an email from a chick last year who told me to stay away from her fiancee. I was "corrupting" him with my dirty pornographic website (I only show my boobs).

She said I was a shame to all womenkind and that I must be a sad, pathetic woman with low self esteem to do what I do. And, what kind of Christian was I to try and take her man.

Take her man, ain't that a hoot. Never mind that it was her Christian man who paid $29.95 to see my nekkid boobs.

I guess all us man stealin', sad, pathetic women, with low self esteem, who are in the porn industry must be baaaad Christians. (gasp) Maybe even children of the

I guess she caught him wacking off or something.

It is ALL YOUR FAULT that her man wants to look at porn. If you didn't exist then he would ..... never mind. He would find some other way to get his jollies that she didn't like

[serenity]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

It is ALL YOUR FAULT that her man wants to look at porn. If you didn't exist then he would ..... never mind. He would find some other way to get his jollies that she didn't like

Sir Moby, you are absolutely right. It is all my fault. I must confess, I am a sinner oh lord, oh I went all the way to Oklahoma or Kansas or where ever he was from, pushed her outta the way, held a gun to his head and made him watch my...evil tittie porn

I feel sorry for the poor dumb bastard. I bet she tells him when and where to pee.

[tickler]

Originally Posted by serenity

I got an email from a chick last year who told me to stay away from her fiancee. I was "corrupting" him with my dirty pornographic website (I only show my boobs).

That reminded me of two things(no pun).

A couple of weeks ago a US talk show mentioned that women were demonstrating outside the station for the right to breast feed in public.

In Canada a few years ago some women brought an equal rights complaint about being banned from going topless while men were allowed. They won.

Maybe boobies will make it out of the corset someday in the US.

[Pusher]

Methinks it's time to bid this SHITHOLE of a country GOODBYE

[misty3k]

"If you really want to read some mindblowing crap, search for the book "Dare to Disc ipline" Because good Christians should beat, humiliate and abuse their children to teach them values and morality. BTW.. all you Welmart shoppers, support this with your dollars. Wel-mart sells baby gift sets that include a sweet little jammies and the Dare to Discipline book all wrapped up with a bow. These entities are intertwined, in bed together.. what have you... Follow the money."

Is that the book written by Lisa Welchel(Blair on Facts of Life)? I know she has one out on how she spanks her kids and puts tobasco sauce on their tongues. Eeesh.

The funny thing is, over on another adult web board, there are a lot of hardcore republicans who love the W. They voted for him twice. Love everything he does, and everyone he appoints. Amazing.

[Linkster]

THe only part of this that really caught my eye - its about damn time someone started saying we ought to be spanking kids - ever since that asshole in the early 60s came out with his parenting book, that said you should always listen to your children and dont set any rules where you might end up having to spank them, this whole society has emerged where parents dont take any responsibility for their childrens acts - including surfing the net. As far as the tabasco - I sure would have preferred that over the ivory soap we all used to get our mouthes washed out with in the 1950s

Of course I just love it when I see all these parents that complain about having to work two jobs - so that they can afford to buy their kids their own cars, their own TV sets, DVD players etc - if I ever asked for a car or something like these personal luxury items every kid is walking around with these days - we would be turned out to go get a job and earn it - too bad not a one of these kids now will ever learn how to earn a real living - just keep depending on everyone else to give them everything.

[Agent]

Bob: Mary caught Jack mastrubating to porn the other night in his work den.

Bob's Wife: Oh my dear. Gosh.

Bob: Keep the kids away from their house for a while.

Bob's Wife: Only Jesus can save his soul now.

...That's the only "community affecting" scenario I can dream up. Unless they rally together to help Jack. But Jack can easily redeem himself by repenting to Jesus. Then, it's all good!

But don't expect these writers to back up anything they say. If they wanted solid facts to regurgitate they wouldn't be culling from a reprint of a few thousand year old book of stories. They have nothing to back them up. If you see them adopting a scientific fact then it's because it reinforces their agenda. They will agree with science as long as it fits their ideology.

[mrMagoo]

Here is that college article I mentioned. It is worth a few laughs

http://www.kykernel.com/media/paper3...l-892094.shtml

Short excerpts:
"When I was 16, my boyfriend became addicted to porn. The problem affects every aspect of our relationship to this day. I'm overly self-conscious because I know that often when he looks at me, he sees me as an object of his desires rather than the person I truly am. It tears me up inside that his love for me wasn't enough to conquer his desire for sexual relationships with other women."

then this curious statement:
"If porn has such a dramatic effect on me and other third-party victims, much as second-hand smoke does, what does it do to women in the business? What would drive a woman to make that career choice? What feeling do you get when your only contributions to the world are sold in the back of a dark warehouse to middle-aged men in need of a bath?"

And how about this gem:
"As the amount of pornographic content in today's magazines and television ads rises, so do eating disorders on college campuses. Men see gorgeous women on the cover of Vogue, and suddenly women feel they must either copy that look or be undesirable."

Vogue is now pornography?

And this certainly warrants attention:
"Women in porn are making themselves available, over and over again, with the hope that someday someone will fill the hole within their hearts. "

Hole within their hearts? This must be a new genre of porn. |cool|

[gigi]

this legislation will open the way for a "crackdown" on illegal pornography, which makes up a majority of the $57 billion dollar industry that grosses more than the professional sports industry, according to a new book by Teen Mania President Ron Luce, entitled Battle Cry for a Generation.

|help|

I couldn't decide which emoticon was most appropriate...haha

[docholly]

Originally Posted by mrMagoo

Here is that college article I mentioned. It is worth a few laughs

http://www.kykernel.com/media/paper3...l-892094.shtml

Short excerpts:
"When I was 16, my boyfriend became addicted to porn. The problem affects every aspect of our relationship to this day. I'm overly self-conscious because I know that often when he looks at me, he sees me as an object of his desires rather than the person I truly am. It tears me up inside that his love for me wasn't enough to conquer his desire for sexual relationships with other women."

then this curious statement:
"If porn has such a dramatic effect on me and other third-party victims, much as second-hand smoke does, what does it do to women in the business? What would drive a woman to make that career choice? What feeling do you get when your only contributions to the world are sold in the back of a dark warehouse to middle-aged men in need of a bath?"

And how about this gem:
"As the amount of pornographic content in today's magazines and television ads rises, so do eating disorders on college campuses. Men see gorgeous women on the cover of Vogue, and suddenly women feel they must either copy that look or be undesirable."

Vogue is now pornography?

And this certainly warrants attention:
"Women in porn are making themselves available, over and over again, with the hope that someday someone will fill the hole within their hearts. "

Hole within their hearts? This must be a new genre of porn. |cool|

i found this entire article amusing.. but what made me laugh the most was that it was the "KY-Kernel" little lube off the grease from KFC. obviously suffering from the calista flockheart syndrome and wants to blame porn for her condition.

[Mishi]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

I would like an explination of this statement.

"One person sneaking a peak late at night is not a solitary thing, but it affects whole communities."

I would really love to hear the thought process that leads to this way of thinking. I believe this thoguht process is very dangerous. My understanding of this thought process is that leads to cruelty that only humans can justify.

Since few people that actually have this mind set are willing to rationally explain it then I guess I will have to continue on with my own thoughts.

This is the mind-set of extremists of all types. Just for fun (NOT) I spent a little time a year or so ago browsing a hardcore extremist "feminist" group's forum. At the time, these "feminists" were all up in arms about the pubic hair shaving trend. I learned that by shaving my naughty-bits, I was setting womankind back several centuries. Never mind the whole personal, individual choice thing - my actions somehow stood for something...well, really hairy, I guess. Ach, I'd best not go on.

Anyway, IMO these chickies were no more "feminists" than most of the far-right religious folk are "Christians." An extremist is an extremist; they manage to bring a bad reputation down on those they claim to represent, while totally mangling the actual belief system. They are both pathetic and dangerous, and I hold a very special (and dark) place in my heart for them all.

[NotThatKevin]

Sorry my number 0f over 4,000 was wrong. It is +/- 500 clergy and the info can be found here http://www.eros.com.au/hypocrites2.php

[lassiter]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

I would like an explination of this statement.

"One person sneaking a peak late at night is not a solitary thing, but it affects whole communities."

I would really love to hear the thought process that leads to this way of thinking.

Masturbating to porn makes one less horny. Horny men who can't masturbate to porn are more motivated to seek out women. Since good Christian women don't put out before marriage, men will get married to be able to have sexual release, causing more new future Republican Christian voters to be born. Ergo: Masturbating to porn leads to the downfall of the Christian Right, and is therefore a "threat to the family."

And no, I'm not entirely joking. I've had Christian born-againers explain that logic to me in about that way.