SE Spammer Revealed

Bill · 2005-07-02, 12:38 AM

Ahhh, Alex, so then you are saying that the google spamreport doesn't work?

At a minimum, you appear to be saying it doesn't work well enough to be bothered with.

Bill · 2005-07-02, 12:52 AM

You said...
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They are laughing at you because instead of improving your own stuff, you have been killing off what they were already assumign would be dead.
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Alex, first of all, it's not possible for the average webmaster to "improve" their own stuff to a level where it effectively compete with a comitted spammer. But that's another issue.

If it can't be done by spending a few hours per month, if it takes more time than that, I agree, it wouldn't work.

But, it's possible that the return on investment for two hours a month of spam reporting could be significant. We don't have to stop spam completly, but like with any parasite, it could be healthy to knock it back every once in a while.

I share your general annoyance at google. I have yet to actually, personally SEE the google spamreport work.

I think it's an experiment that should be tried.

doublep · 2005-07-02, 05:50 AM

Alex - I know for a fact you are not a racist

As for the subject of search engine spammers/cheaters - I care not what colour, race, or creed they are - whether they prefer Pepsi to Coke, I don't care about their motives either - a cheater is a cheater is a cheater. There are American cheaters/spammers using Chinese servers to cheat, there are Russian cheaters using Brazilian servers to cheat, there are Eastern Europeans using Canadian servers to cheat - some think these cheat - these guys think these guys cheat. Cheaters can be broken down further too - Surfers cheat, webmasters cheat, sponsors cheat, corporations cheat... and on and on it goes!

Like yourself, I'm a link list owner, I have enough on my plate keeping cheaters at bay on my own little corner of the web. Unfortunately greed is prevalent in all races - the point I was making is that not all members of any particular race are cheaters - most have morals and integrity - and lumping the tendency for greed and deception on any group just because they are outside of ones country is wrong - hence, I did get a little wound up by Gideon's post when I read parasite and foreigner in the same line.

To be honest - I'm past caring who is spamming Google with this and that new technique - let Google worry about it - it's their traffic after all - not mine or any other webmasters - cheaters will always be here - as you say ".. we can bitch and moan and whine and get google to remove their domains at the end of a cycle - only to have it all replaced with another pile of spamming dung". And also, as you rightly say, the only way you can compete with them is improving your own stuff! That I do believe to be true.

Linkster · 2005-07-02, 06:17 AM

Alex - actually Google has hired rooms full of people -they are online as of a few months ago doing "quality hand checks" - part of a university project they have going on

As far as the spam report - yeah it works - may not seem that way in some cases - but those are the ones that Google tries to fight over a long period of time.

More important though - most of this building ahead and knowing your stuff is toast a wekk after it appears is very correct - and accounted for - so for the ones that want to take the few minutes to fill out the report - thats fine - if not - thats fine too

Robert · 2005-07-02, 12:10 PM

2 domains mentioned in this thread are history ...

Linkster · 2005-07-02, 12:44 PM

Robert - havent seen ya in a long time - hows things since that smashingthumbs demise?

gideon · 2005-07-02, 01:48 PM

Guys don't listen to spammers who try and convince you that its not worth reporting spam. It works almost everytime. The key is to fill out the spam report and on the "Additional details:" area put the root domain in there. This works for me every single time. And its not AFTER a cycle. I have seen them gone as fast as 6 days. I target 13 keyword phrases for a site of mine and I am back in the top 10 on almost all of them using the spam report.

I been at it 8 months and counting and the spammers are not back every cycle. Rorschach is full of shit.

Fighting spam is not futile, its an awesome way to get back traffic we normal webmasters work for.

Robert · 2005-07-02, 02:00 PM

Hey Linkster,
you know, I dont post much on boards, even though I read them almost daily.

Everything works great for me ... thanks for asking

I have couple of new projects that enjoy all the love they get from Google. I've celebrated 1st anniversary of smashingthumbs ban 2 weeks ago

, Privatecuties.com is growing up nicely and I still learn from your and Bills posts here

... however I spend most of my time on my non-adult stuff.

Also, glad to see linkforsex recovered from that google mid Dec screw up

doublep · 2005-07-02, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert

2 domains mentioned in this thread are history ...

Which two?

2005-07-02, 06:17 AM	#4
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Alex - actually Google has hired rooms full of people -they are online as of a few months ago doing "quality hand checks" - part of a university project they have going on As far as the spam report - yeah it works - may not seem that way in some cases - but those are the ones that Google tries to fight over a long period of time. More important though - most of this building ahead and knowing your stuff is toast a wekk after it appears is very correct - and accounted for - so for the ones that want to take the few minutes to fill out the report - thats fine - if not - thats fine too __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-07-02, 12:44 PM	#6
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Robert - havent seen ya in a long time - hows things since that smashingthumbs demise? __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-07-02, 12:38 AM	#1
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	Ahhh, Alex, so then you are saying that the google spamreport doesn't work? At a minimum, you appear to be saying it doesn't work well enough to be bothered with.

2005-07-02, 12:52 AM	#2
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	You said... ---- They are laughing at you because instead of improving your own stuff, you have been killing off what they were already assumign would be dead. ---- Alex, first of all, it's not possible for the average webmaster to "improve" their own stuff to a level where it effectively compete with a comitted spammer. But that's another issue. If it can't be done by spending a few hours per month, if it takes more time than that, I agree, it wouldn't work. But, it's possible that the return on investment for two hours a month of spam reporting could be significant. We don't have to stop spam completly, but like with any parasite, it could be healthy to knock it back every once in a while. I share your general annoyance at google. I have yet to actually, personally SEE the google spamreport work. I think it's an experiment that should be tried.

2005-07-02, 05:50 AM	#3
doublep If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 306	Alex - I know for a fact you are not a racist As for the subject of search engine spammers/cheaters - I care not what colour, race, or creed they are - whether they prefer Pepsi to Coke, I don't care about their motives either - a cheater is a cheater is a cheater. There are American cheaters/spammers using Chinese servers to cheat, there are Russian cheaters using Brazilian servers to cheat, there are Eastern Europeans using Canadian servers to cheat - some think these cheat - these guys think these guys cheat. Cheaters can be broken down further too - Surfers cheat, webmasters cheat, sponsors cheat, corporations cheat... and on and on it goes! Like yourself, I'm a link list owner, I have enough on my plate keeping cheaters at bay on my own little corner of the web. Unfortunately greed is prevalent in all races - the point I was making is that not all members of any particular race are cheaters - most have morals and integrity - and lumping the tendency for greed and deception on any group just because they are outside of ones country is wrong - hence, I did get a little wound up by Gideon's post when I read parasite and foreigner in the same line. To be honest - I'm past caring who is spamming Google with this and that new technique - let Google worry about it - it's their traffic after all - not mine or any other webmasters - cheaters will always be here - as you say ".. we can bitch and moan and whine and get google to remove their domains at the end of a cycle - only to have it all replaced with another pile of spamming dung". And also, as you rightly say, the only way you can compete with them is improving your own stuff! That I do believe to be true.

2005-07-02, 12:10 PM	#5
Robert Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23	2 domains mentioned in this thread are history ...

2005-07-02, 01:48 PM	#7
gideon They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 145	Guys don't listen to spammers who try and convince you that its not worth reporting spam. It works almost everytime. The key is to fill out the spam report and on the "Additional details:" area put the root domain in there. This works for me every single time. And its not AFTER a cycle. I have seen them gone as fast as 6 days. I target 13 keyword phrases for a site of mine and I am back in the top 10 on almost all of them using the spam report. I been at it 8 months and counting and the spammers are not back every cycle. Rorschach is full of shit. Fighting spam is not futile, its an awesome way to get back traffic we normal webmasters work for.

2005-07-02, 02:00 PM	#8
Robert Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 23	Hey Linkster, you know, I dont post much on boards, even though I read them almost daily. Everything works great for me ... thanks for asking I have couple of new projects that enjoy all the love they get from Google. I've celebrated 1st anniversary of smashingthumbs ban 2 weeks ago , Privatecuties.com is growing up nicely and I still learn from your and Bills posts here ... however I spend most of my time on my non-adult stuff. Also, glad to see linkforsex recovered from that google mid Dec screw up