I need some advice on naming directory/pages please

natalie · 2005-07-19, 06:21 AM

That quote is from Apr 22, 2004... in seo thats ancient

And I just checked why my seo told me that, its because google doesnt differentiate between all 3 anymore. The reason I was advised that is that theres a possibility down the track they will see hyphens and underscores as spammy.

I did a check on same keyword phrases and the about same amount of all 3 variations came up. Funny enough one of my number fours for a good keyword has _ in the url.

I am not trying to argue about this.. why? Cos I don't give a flying fuck what anyone else does in thier seo, in fact I would prefer they don't do what I do. I am happy with my rankings.

Linkster · 2005-07-19, 09:35 AM

natalie - not gonna argue with ya cause I agree that everyone is welcome to try what they like

However - in all of the actual controlled tests where the keywords were not on the page (that would introduce false positives) and in the links to the page (again a false positive) and only the url contained the words, in all cases the dash separated keywords ranked for the phrase typed in as a search of the two words, wheras the underscore did not show up for the phrase.(It did show up for the two words combined into one word)
I would also agree that Google's engine has not been changed to recognize the underscore yet - although I believe Y and MS have. Its just a difference of the way the programmers like things at Google.

The other problem is that in the last year, some variations have been added to the algorithm to separate combined words if(and they are getting better at it) the words are commonly used words recognized by Google. This adds the secondary effect that if you use an underscore, the algo sees the words combined as one, but then if they are common words they get separated again

Of course in all of the testing we've tried, the url has so little to do with the ranking of the page vs. using keywords and other on-page and link factors - they way outweigh anything in the URL - and that can be seen on any search done in Google for a two or more word phrase - assuming that you see pages with keyword URLs I would be willing to bet that they are doing just as well as pages without

Linkster · 2005-07-19, 09:38 AM

Also - in reference to the originals posters idea - note the way Greenguy wrote the URLs - there is another benefit to having the url only go one directory deep - and that is probably more important than most other things you do in the url

Surfn · 2005-07-19, 10:19 AM

These days my sites look like " mysite.com/google-sucks/yahoo-rulz/index.html"

Useless · 2005-07-19, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfn

These days my sites look like " mysite.com/google-sucks/yahoo-rulz/index.html"

I've found this works out pretty good too: domain.com/greenguys/link-o-rama/dangerdave/tommy.htm.

2005-07-19, 06:21 AM	#1
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2005-07-19, 09:35 AM	#2
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	natalie - not gonna argue with ya cause I agree that everyone is welcome to try what they like However - in all of the actual controlled tests where the keywords were not on the page (that would introduce false positives) and in the links to the page (again a false positive) and only the url contained the words, in all cases the dash separated keywords ranked for the phrase typed in as a search of the two words, wheras the underscore did not show up for the phrase.(It did show up for the two words combined into one word) I would also agree that Google's engine has not been changed to recognize the underscore yet - although I believe Y and MS have. Its just a difference of the way the programmers like things at Google. The other problem is that in the last year, some variations have been added to the algorithm to separate combined words if(and they are getting better at it) the words are commonly used words recognized by Google. This adds the secondary effect that if you use an underscore, the algo sees the words combined as one, but then if they are common words they get separated again Of course in all of the testing we've tried, the url has so little to do with the ranking of the page vs. using keywords and other on-page and link factors - they way outweigh anything in the URL - and that can be seen on any search done in Google for a two or more word phrase - assuming that you see pages with keyword URLs I would be willing to bet that they are doing just as well as pages without __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-07-19, 09:38 AM	#3
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Also - in reference to the originals posters idea - note the way Greenguy wrote the URLs - there is another benefit to having the url only go one directory deep - and that is probably more important than most other things you do in the url __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-07-19, 10:19 AM	#4
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	These days my sites look like " mysite.com/google-sucks/yahoo-rulz/index.html" __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?