The voice of reason has returned

juggernaut · 2005-08-20, 01:43 PM

You’re talking about free speech of violence. Which I think people understand can not be tolerated. No, we can not yell FIRE in a crowded room. But that’s not what Maher was getting at. He meant the personally offensive things should not be allowed. Your Midget comment, being one of them. He would think that is wrong and should be against the law, but who’s to say it is? The little person who is pissed about it or the one who is not? Of course I don’t agree with a free speech of hurting someone but truth is KKK preaches it or did in the past and that never stopped them from being able to march. 99% of the time when they were blocked from a rally, they sued and won. Then the local town goes and passes a law stating something crazy like no one can march with signs over 6 inches wide, or they have to pay a fee which goes from $100 for the permit to $100,000.00 just to stop the march. It’s a very touchy subject. When you state you are going to kill someone it's a totally different issue. Free Speech was meant for people to be able to voice their opinions without the fear of the government taking them away. IE “I don’t like GW Bush.” He was my boss for some time and whenever someone asked me my opinion of him I was required by law to not state anything or else I could go to jail, but that’s different. That’s UCMJ (Universal Code of Military Justice) which is regulated by the DOD whom can pass its own rules and laws on how it governs its employee’s. Much like a business can make a dress code rule. Stating you are going to kill someone is a threat and imposes the possible intent to do harm to the person. Which I agree should be illegal.

2005-08-20, 01:43 PM	#1
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	You’re talking about free speech of violence. Which I think people understand can not be tolerated. No, we can not yell FIRE in a crowded room. But that’s not what Maher was getting at. He meant the personally offensive things should not be allowed. Your Midget comment, being one of them. He would think that is wrong and should be against the law, but who’s to say it is? The little person who is pissed about it or the one who is not? Of course I don’t agree with a free speech of hurting someone but truth is KKK preaches it or did in the past and that never stopped them from being able to march. 99% of the time when they were blocked from a rally, they sued and won. Then the local town goes and passes a law stating something crazy like no one can march with signs over 6 inches wide, or they have to pay a fee which goes from $100 for the permit to $100,000.00 just to stop the march. It’s a very touchy subject. When you state you are going to kill someone it's a totally different issue. Free Speech was meant for people to be able to voice their opinions without the fear of the government taking them away. IE “I don’t like GW Bush.” He was my boss for some time and whenever someone asked me my opinion of him I was required by law to not state anything or else I could go to jail, but that’s different. That’s UCMJ (Universal Code of Military Justice) which is regulated by the DOD whom can pass its own rules and laws on how it governs its employee’s. Much like a business can make a dress code rule. Stating you are going to kill someone is a threat and imposes the possible intent to do harm to the person. Which I agree should be illegal.