newbie's first site a "mess"

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by beholder242

OK, to address each item.

The recip table looks nasty because everyone's got their own unique, non-standard recip of varying sizes and modifying them is typically a no-no. Personally, I prefer graphic links, like you see after you enter, although they do use extra bandwidth.

I missed assigning the link on PK's recip graphic. That is fixed. I put it where I did because (if memory serves) her rules did not specify that it had to be above the Enter button, but did have to be on the page that I submitted to be linked to. I covered my bases and put her links on the index.html and main.html pages.

Which sponsor links are you referring to when you talk about mouseovers?

I'm confused about something...could you explain a bit more about the criteria needed to submit my site to your link list in the "Live Webcams" category? And what would qualify as an "acceptable free site structure"?

Yep, if you try to use everyone's regular recips and that many recips...things tend to get ugly. However, very few if any link sites have a problem with you using text only links (as long as you leave the anchor text intact). This enables you to build cleaner recip tables while still using a fairly large number of recips. If you want to use the exact recips the link lists provide, it almost demands fewer recips to keep the site looking clean.

Ah, my bad...just assumed PK wanted her recip above the enter link like almost all other link sites. If she's good with it, that's all that matters

The mouseover comment pertains to the 'chat free with blah blah blah' part of your mouseovers. Most link sites prefer a simple url only mouseover if mouseovers are used at all. Ex. "www.domain.com"

Also, just noticed you've got java script on the main page. Another no no on free sites for many link lists...mine included. Too many exploits and lack of webmaster control when pulled from another domain.

Probably the simplest way to find out what link sites will list in their live webcams category is to look at some of the sites listed. Personally, when I build for cams sites...I do so with still images. Using the live cams as the upsell. You will find variance in what link lists will accept in their cams category. When I run across a link list that won't list still images in the cams category, I submit to amateur.

As to acceptable free site structure, I think most list owners are at lease somewhat flexible. Again, take a look at what's listed at some of the lists and you'll get a pretty good idea of what it takes to get listed. However, a single page of recips...followed by a page of javascript...probably isn't going to get listed in many places

Think that addresses your questions

One thing though, don't want you to think I'm raggin on ya here Beholder. Everyone has a learning curve when first getting into free sites. You're in the best place you can be to learn how to build sites that DO get listed