Google Changes

[Linkster]

Bill - Im very familiar with the source of those "propositions" about recipricol linking - interestingly the source article was written on the 10th of November - the same day that Matt Cutts posted on his blog that the update was just finishing up and starting to propagate to the data centers - and its trying to promote all types of analysis of the results - before the results are even visible
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/jagger-winding-down/

So how did he get all of this testing done and have the results from his test sites before the update was completed - easy - he made it up - like I said - total BS

I will also come out and say publicly that the day Google really devalues recip linking is the day that MSN takes over the search market - and Google knows it - why do you think they are trying this new analytics tool - theyre hoping that enough idiots install it to watch their site - so that Google can feed that into their algo as well

Google wouldnt spend the millions it does trying to filter out dupes, doing quality reviews and the hundreds of other steps they take - if they were planning to get rid of recip linking as a part of the algo
MOST important - the whole concept of their engine mathmatically is the democratic voting among sites - and they are not going to destroy the accepted method of linking among web sites that is established on huge old sites - just to get rid of a few spammers - they have much better ways of doing this and just because a few hundred WMs get hit for buying links or setting up loads of fake sites like goes on around here with fake interlinking for SE purposes only - doesnt require a devaluation of anything - it requires just what Google has done and installed smart filters that can tell the difference
The IBL OBL thing has been around for 3 years now so thats nothing new

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by Linkster

Interestingly the source article was written on the 10th of November - the same day that Matt Cutts posted on his blog that the update was just finishing up and starting to propagate to the data centers - and its trying to promote all types of analysis of the results - before the results are even visible
http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/jagger-winding-down/

So how did he get all of this testing done and have the results from his test sites before the update was completed - easy - he made it up - like I said - total BS

Google knows it - why do you think they are trying this new analytics tool - theyre hoping that enough idiots install it to watch their site - so that Google can feed that into their algo as well

Google wouldnt spend the millions it does trying to filter out dupes, doing quality reviews and the hundreds of other steps they take - if they were planning to get rid of recip linking as a part of the algo
MOST important

1) Is there ANYBODY that doesn't get sitepronews... sometimes interesting mostly not I'm always surprised that people quote stuff from here.

2) I read Matt Cutt... though he may be GUESSING my experience tells me some people are real good guessers based on knowledge, inside info, and maybe he's trying to hint at something once in a while.

3) Google Analytics... dubious at best. Linkster you hit it right on the head! Only an idiot would give Google that kind of access to their site. NO WAY!

4) Googles' mission is to deliver the "best search result" they don't have to devalue recip links, they only have to increase the value of one way links which makes perfect sense from a lot of different points of view, I think there may be some real smoke here.

5) What's up with MSN? I've had 226 visits from them in the last two months? I was shocked. Granted I've been doing a lot of optimizing but I'm thinking more likely somewhere I'm bouncing their bot around and its getting trapped (he,he)

6) A couple of months ago there was news about Google's app for a patent and the info it reavealed. Since then I've not really heard anything. Anybody got a link to an in depth analysis of that application (please don't give me the trademark.gov link)

7) Finally, what I really am amazed about is the employee loyalty over there at Google. They are almost leak proof. I would have thought by now there would have been an ex employee that would have written a tell all book or something. However, one generally is loyal to another that's made you a millionaire.

[Linkster]

Originally Posted by DJilla

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2) I read Matt Cutt... though he may be GUESSING my experience tells me some people are real good guessers based on knowledge, inside info, and maybe he's trying to hint at something once in a while.

Since he is head engineer of the quality results dept at Google and probably the leading contact for WMs that are trying to learn white-hat SEO as well as most people pretty much assuming that he is the "googleguy" that posts around the web based on his bio and things he has posted about in the past - Id say that his postings are far from guesses

He wrote the safesearch part of the google engine as well as writing new guidelines for WMs - if you havent looked recently the Google pages about how to stay on their good side has been updated in the last few months.

[kenny]

Google keeps doing things to push the same sites higher and higher.

While it removes most of the spam sites - I also have to look at the cache of the page just to find the keywords I'm looking for.

Many times the page has nothing to do what I'm searching for it just happens to be a site with many other sites pointing to it.

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by sleeper

Google keeps doing things to push the same sites higher and higher.

Many times the page has nothing to do what I'm searching for it just happens to be a site with many other sites pointing to it.

Word on that. Last month I finnaly got listed there and it was for a great keyword that I honestly did not think I ever had a shot at getting in the top ten with. Well I was #8. I went back and looked 2 weeks later cause I stopped seeing traffic from that word. All I saw was a bunch of sites that had nothing to do with cams. Just stupid shit, like someone posting on a blog or a forum with one dam paragraph having the word cams in it (no cams was not the keyword I was using, i could only wish I got #8 with that bad boy). And mine was no longer listed. A couple of months ago I decided to take Gonzos advice and just let them find me, which made me relax about everything a lot more when it comes to them. But now, I mean whats the point of even caring if the sites they are listing are not relevant to the keyword like they say they are trying to make them.