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Old 2005-11-25, 04:42 PM   #1
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Webwoman: Obviously, you didn't take my adivce to be quiet soooo...

I wish you the best and caution you to be very, very, cautious. Lawyers are a funny bunch and if you don't actually know the one you are dealing with its best not to follow their advice blindly without doing your own research. However, it does sound like you have a better than average situation given the complication of the bankruptcy situation (sorry that you are further caught up in the cross fire of more garbage piled up on top of an already bad situation). Two thoughts come to mind:

1) Just because you haven't heard anything generally doesn't mean that "they made an honest mistake and aren't trying to drive you into the ground. It usually means that they are just waiting to present what they have to a grand jury (The king never admits a mistake if only because it would then be actionable for damages) I can't imagine the situation where they'll go "Ooops... never mind"... so methinks you still have trouble ahead and be careful.
2) At minimum I would guess they want you out of town or out of business... don't fight it, negotiate an agreement and melt back into the framework of your community. Enough said: good luck!

Furry Girl: After watching your other posts and seeing that you generally have a sweet temperment, I was a little surprised to see you go so hysterical in this thread. I understood once I realized that you feel you are defending what most would agree is obnoxious content and I gotta tell you it will NEVER be acceptable like you proclaim it should be. You are merely defending what you do and wrapping it in a Joan of Arc type crusade. You should step aside a minute and realize that you are justifying yourself and not being objective. If you are going to be "out there" then be willing to take the hits from a majority of people who find your stuff disgusting and just don't care. Don't act like everyone else is crazy. Raw Alex not only has NOT said anything that wasn't pretty reasonable, but I can see many times he opened the door to you and offered an olive branch to having a reaonable debate and not keep it on the personal level that you kept dragging it back too. Calm down and go back to your sweet self who knows a secret no one else can understand.

FOR ME, I'm glad you're out there like that and encourage you to do more and better! You do have some guts and as long as you're pushing the barf bag stuff I know that I can safely peddle my tame stuff behind the wave that you've created.
While they are paying attention to you they'll ignore me. You are a valuable asset to the porn game because as Raw Alex originally said, you are the one likely to get the speeding ticket. This is good for everyone else because they'll get to slide right by when you take the sacrificial hit. They should be thanking you instead of attacking you.

Bill Margold: Somebody please stuff a rag in his mouth and tie him up somewhere!

The official position is:

Porn is ART and EXPRESSION!
There will be no concessions.
There will be no negotiated agreements.
There will be no taxes.
There will be no regulation.
There will be no quarter!
Period!
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Old 2005-11-25, 04:49 PM   #2
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The official position is:

Porn is ART and EXPRESSION!
There will be no concessions.
There will be no negotiated agreements.
There will be no taxes.
There will be no regulation.
There will be no quarter!
Period!
Well said, because if we give one hard won inch... they will take a mile!
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Old 2005-11-25, 08:08 PM   #3
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You should step aside a minute and realize that you are justifying yourself and not being objective. If you are going to be "out there" then be willing to take the hits from a majority of people who find your stuff disgusting and just don't care. Don't act like everyone else is crazy.
I'm absolutely not objective about the personal porn that I meake which features myself and my cunt. Spend 22 years being told that your body is shameful, disgusting, barf-worthy, dirty, stinky, too out-there, and obscene, and then try to give me a lesson on objectivity. Sorry, dude, but this is something you will just never understand.
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Old 2005-11-25, 09:29 PM   #4
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Spend 22 years being told that your body is shameful, disgusting, barf-worthy, dirty, stinky, too out-there, and obscene, and then try to give me a lesson on objectivity. Sorry, dude, but this is something you will just never understand.
But just the opposite, I think I do understand, I understand that you are dealing with your own point of view and expression of it. I'm fully supportive of that and you. What I'm trying to point out is that you may be extremely wrapped up in ONLY your point of view and that you lose sight of the fact that there is probably a large body of people that find your position/expression extreme and therefore threatening, unpleasant, whatever. Because of this you're going to take some hits. The objective part I'm referring to comes from you knowing and accepting this and letting the hits roll off of you like a raincoat and not taking it so personally. Its not a cirticism of you as a person but of your art. This is a legitimate endeavor when you invite people to partake in your expression publicly. When they do, negativity is going to come. You need to lighten up when it does and not be so touchy. Like I said, your stuff may not be to my taste but I love that you've got the guts to be out there with it for whatever your personal reasons. I just don't think you need to be so defensive or hostile just because others are goading you.

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Old 2005-11-29, 06:27 AM   #5
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But just the opposite, I think I do understand, I understand that you are dealing with your own point of view and expression of it. I'm fully supportive of that and you. What I'm trying to point out is that you may be extremely wrapped up in ONLY your point of view and that you lose sight of the fact that there is probably a large body of people that find your position/expression extreme and therefore threatening, unpleasant, whatever. Because of this you're going to take some hits. The objective part I'm referring to comes from you knowing and accepting this and letting the hits roll off of you like a raincoat and not taking it so personally. Its not a cirticism of you as a person but of your art. This is a legitimate endeavor when you invite people to partake in your expression publicly. When they do, negativity is going to come. You need to lighten up when it does and not be so touchy. Like I said, your stuff may not be to my taste but I love that you've got the guts to be out there with it for whatever your personal reasons. I just don't think you need to be so defensive or hostile just because others are goading you.

Rock On Babe!
There's a difference between being able to be critiqued by colleagues and being told that you're barf-worthy, disgusting, offensive, and that your pussy goo is no different from shit. Those are not mature, productive, objective discussion points, so it's no wonder that I don't have a non-objective response to them.

Secondly, Alex has not been making rational claims or backing up his presumptions with fact. He is fear mongering to the extent of inferring that a little pussy blood could be the end of the porn industry as we know it, and I really shouldn't even have to dignify that sort of panicky-ass finger-pointing behavior with a reply.

I don't understand how we made it to this backwards reality of saying that fright-based sky-is-falling arguments are some kind of "fact" compared my own historically documented "opinion" that the only way that the adult industry has made it this far is because a few people have been willing to go to bat for *all* of us and challenge bad laws and obscenity standards.
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Old 2005-11-29, 05:53 PM   #6
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UP DATE attorney interview on Ynot.
http://www.ynot.com/index.php
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Old 2005-11-29, 09:31 PM   #7
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UP DATE attorney interview on Ynot.
http://www.ynot.com/index.php

I guess I am confused, I saw very little (if any...although that certainly doesn't mean I couldn't have missed it) about selling homemade videos on the website as this paragraph from that interview states, but I did see selling packages of time for bdsm services, which the article does not mention.

" Michelle thought that things were starting to settle down in her life. She was getting her finances in order and had found that selling home-made bondage videos through her website provided her with the economic independence she needed to accomplish her goals. She had her professional ducks in a row and was preparing for a successful and satisfying future.
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