A new web cam portal need help to get into the wild.

juggernaut · 2005-12-16, 01:42 PM

Well once again I can only tell you my opinon as I don't run one of those programs. I don't think WM are that interested anymore to sign up with lifetime % as there are issues with it. IE shaving. But if you had a solid tracking program that really did track 100% of the customers spending that would be nice to offer them that option.
I did not say WM like more PPS then lifetime %. That is totally up to the WM. Me personnaly, if I was a WM would rather pps as it's a simple get paid when they sign up then having to track stuff. But that's just me.
As far as numbers I can't really help you out, as once again I am not running a program and any numbers I would place up here would only be from my guess work. But what I can tell you is look at some of the programs out there and start doing some math. My calculations showed profits only after a customer purchased 3 shows. Which does happen, about 20% of the show purchased on my current cam site and past one purchased more then twice. Around 60% purchased twice.
To calculate a profitable PPS program you have to look at the whole picture and that includes start up cost for payouts, payout to your models, WM, server, etc. Once you start to factor in all this you should be able to get a idea of the type of program you can offer. Keep in mind there are programs out there that are paying WM $100 per sign up and you will need to compete with that. If you can't compete with the $$ then you need to compete on a differant level, offering things that make it easy for them to promote you.
As far as providing free hosting, free promo tools you are correct. Everything you build and offer it to your WM. IE you build a FS and it's hosted on your server. All the WM has to do is take their linking code and drop it into their LL, TGP or a submit page for a LL or TGP etc. There is a lot more to it then that, but that is the basic idea. I can only tell you to read more around this board, and you will learn a lot.
I don't know everything about running a successful cam site. I can only tell you what I have learned or think I have figured out. One thing is 100% for sure was the best advice I was given after I started my sites was, start out with freesites and learn how to manage your traffic, move up to a tgp, then LL then paysite then camsite.
Camsites can be the most profitable sites to own if done correctly by smart people. It's a learning process that unfortunatly most people want to by pass and start right out with the big money maker which in the end just fails.

2005-12-16, 01:42 PM	#7
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well once again I can only tell you my opinon as I don't run one of those programs. I don't think WM are that interested anymore to sign up with lifetime % as there are issues with it. IE shaving. But if you had a solid tracking program that really did track 100% of the customers spending that would be nice to offer them that option. I did not say WM like more PPS then lifetime %. That is totally up to the WM. Me personnaly, if I was a WM would rather pps as it's a simple get paid when they sign up then having to track stuff. But that's just me. As far as numbers I can't really help you out, as once again I am not running a program and any numbers I would place up here would only be from my guess work. But what I can tell you is look at some of the programs out there and start doing some math. My calculations showed profits only after a customer purchased 3 shows. Which does happen, about 20% of the show purchased on my current cam site and past one purchased more then twice. Around 60% purchased twice. To calculate a profitable PPS program you have to look at the whole picture and that includes start up cost for payouts, payout to your models, WM, server, etc. Once you start to factor in all this you should be able to get a idea of the type of program you can offer. Keep in mind there are programs out there that are paying WM $100 per sign up and you will need to compete with that. If you can't compete with the $$ then you need to compete on a differant level, offering things that make it easy for them to promote you. As far as providing free hosting, free promo tools you are correct. Everything you build and offer it to your WM. IE you build a FS and it's hosted on your server. All the WM has to do is take their linking code and drop it into their LL, TGP or a submit page for a LL or TGP etc. There is a lot more to it then that, but that is the basic idea. I can only tell you to read more around this board, and you will learn a lot. I don't know everything about running a successful cam site. I can only tell you what I have learned or think I have figured out. One thing is 100% for sure was the best advice I was given after I started my sites was, start out with freesites and learn how to manage your traffic, move up to a tgp, then LL then paysite then camsite. Camsites can be the most profitable sites to own if done correctly by smart people. It's a learning process that unfortunatly most people want to by pass and start right out with the big money maker which in the end just fails.