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Old 2005-12-23, 09:00 AM   #1
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I have been thinking a central blacklist database that everyone could use and integrate it to their scripts.

Would this be good idea?

I know about http://bl.usefulscripts.com/ and its good but i cant but
it in my script for automated cheater check.

Just my 2 thoughts before xmas and mary xmas to everyone
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Old 2005-12-23, 09:14 AM   #2
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In answer to the question about LLs that cheat and how to find them - there is a small issue in that while most will blacklist a LL for stealing/copying somebodies LL recips (like has happened in the past for Hoes and Cleos and a few others) there are link list owners out there that dont care about that and will continue to list free sites using those stolen recips or other copyright infringements etc.

I dont pretend to be the Link List cop and making a central database would just be asking for trouble in my opinion as out of the hundreds of link lists out there that would use it - I can guarantee based on posts Ive seen here that there are link lists owners that would list anything as long as it has a recip to their site and has 4 pages - all they care about is having the recips for their misconceptions of search engine positioning LOL
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Old 2005-12-23, 02:36 PM   #3
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In answer to the question about LLs that cheat and how to find them - there is a small issue in that while most will blacklist a LL for stealing/copying somebodies LL recips (like has happened in the past for Hoes and Cleos and a few others) there are link list owners out there that dont care about that and will continue to list free sites using those stolen recips or other copyright infringements etc.
But there are also linklist owners who weren't around for some of these infractions. For instance I've seen a good deal of LL rules that say no 'Cherry Picked Links' but I had no idea why. I actually thought it may be a CP thing.

I remember someone copying Cleo's recips and if I noticed that I probably would have mentioned something to the submitter.

I guess my point is, some LL owners -- like myself -- are just as clueless about which LL's are considered cheaters. I appreciate the lists You and Useless put down below and I'll try to keep a better eye out for those sites. So it may not be that we don't care, but that we are just not informed.

BTW: I know fuckthensuck used to be in my recip tables, I had no idea...

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Old 2005-12-23, 03:24 PM   #4
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Mr Blue - basically in answer to your question about just tossing the free sites - since I work only with partner submitters - I do (and did in this case) send an email to the submitter to let them know for each and every case

I think that it would be tough to say - here's a list - because again a lot of LL owners dont consider copying somebodies recips a "cheating infraction" or they simply dont care as evidenced by their continual listings of sites that do have those recips - and yes these would be LL owners that do know about the occurences and even posted in the threads way back
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Old 2005-12-23, 07:57 PM   #5
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Mr Blue - basically in answer to your question about just tossing the free sites - since I work only with partner submitters - I do (and did in this case) send an email to the submitter to let them know for each and every case
yeah you run a good show and I know you would toss an email if something was up.

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I think that it would be tough to say - here's a list - because again a lot of LL owners dont consider copying somebodies recips a "cheating infraction" or they simply dont care as evidenced by their continual listings of sites that do have those recips - and yes these would be LL owners that do know about the occurences and even posted in the threads way back
Yeah, I understand that it's not everyone's rule...but that's why there's rule pages for every LL. I mean I submit to FilthyEarl, if I see on his rule page that he doesn't want his LL associated with x, y, z, etc...I won't put the recips with his. When someone says, so and so, cheated on their rule page, I'll usually look it up and drop them from my submit list if it's something I deem cheating as well.

I don't know, it just seems like a new LinkList is popping up daily now. It's getting hard to keep track of the players.
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Old 2005-12-23, 10:12 PM   #6
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I don't know, it just seems like a new LinkList is popping up daily now. It's getting hard to keep track of the players.
70%-90% of those new LLs will fade into nothingness as their owners relize how much work it really is to run a LL. Plus, you've got to focus on getting traffic to give away for free, which is a concept some people don't find too appealing once they get right down to it

Theiving motherfuckers who can't be bothered to design their own recips should be taken out and buried in a pit of scarabs.

Link list owners that multisubmit (like fuckthensuck.com) are just fucking uncivilized.

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Old 2005-12-23, 11:31 PM   #7
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70%-90% of those new LLs will fade into nothingness as their owners relize how much work it really is to run a LL. Plus, you've got to focus on getting traffic to give away for free, which is a concept some people don't find too appealing once they get right down to it

Theiving motherfuckers who can't be bothered to design their own recips should be taken out and buried in a pit of scarabs.

Link list owners that multisubmit (like fuckthensuck.com) are just fucking uncivilized.
Well said Max

With a minor addition...add a fire ant mound in with the scarabs

Running a link site is definitely not for the feint of heart or those looking for a quick buck. It's more of a long LONG term love/hate kinda thang...lol.
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I think all reviewers have in mind a small group of recips that they don't want to see on any site submitted to them. Some for business reasons. Some for personal reasons. Naming names can start an ugly shit storm, so let me be the first one to fling poo. The following are no secret. This is an exact excerpt from Filthy Earl's rule page:

- Submissions with a recips to any of the following link lists will not be accepted:
>> Cherry Picked Links - stolen recip code
>> Porn Fresh - stolen domain
>> Fetish Crawler - stolen domain
>> J Loves Porn - spamming fucktard

You don't have to memorize these to submit to me. My script will block your submission and tell you so if one of them is present.
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Old 2005-12-23, 09:34 AM   #9
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I would add these to the list - just some quick ones I found in the cheaters forum:
fuckthensuck
linksforadult
flashinglinks
webadultlinks

Im pretty sure they were added because of being multisubmitters using fake names and emails
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Old 2005-12-23, 10:01 AM   #10
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I have a couple dozen but I won't and don't publicize which ones

In addition to the ones already mentioned above...
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Old 2006-01-14, 12:02 PM   #11
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I would add these to the list - just some quick ones I found in the cheaters forum:
fuckthensuck
linksforadult
flashinglinks
webadultlinks

Im pretty sure they were added because of being multisubmitters using fake names and emails
From January 7th I'm the owner of webadultlinks.com. Linkster, please remove the site from your list.
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Old 2006-01-14, 12:26 PM   #12
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From January 7th I'm the owner of webadultlinks.com. Linkster, please remove the site from your list.
Why?
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