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Old 2006-01-19, 01:15 PM   #1
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The models used in those particular GEO ads are StreamRay Cam girls who must submit two forms of ID in order to work with StreamRay.
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Old 2006-01-19, 01:29 PM   #2
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The models used in those particular GEO ads are StreamRay Cam girls who must submit two forms of ID in order to work with StreamRay.
I'm sure that she's over age but I don't like her looking so young. I know that's just my personal preference.

Are you saying that AFF does NOT have a copy of her IDs on file and that you're relying on a third party to verify the age of models in your promotional material?
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Old 2006-01-19, 01:41 PM   #3
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I'm sure that she's over age but I don't like her looking so young. I know that's just my personal preference.

Are you saying that AFF does NOT have a copy of her IDs on file and that you're relying on a third party to verify the age of models in your promotional material?

The images are hosted by StreamRay. You should also know that last year StreamRay and FriendFinder Inc merged and are now owned by the same parent company Various Inc. So essentially AFF does have a copy of all the IDs. I have sent an e-mail to 2257@streamray.com just to verify the age of this model.
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Old 2006-01-19, 03:47 PM   #4
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The images are hosted by StreamRay. You should also know that last year StreamRay and FriendFinder Inc merged and are now owned by the same parent company Various Inc. So essentially AFF does have a copy of all the IDs. I have sent an e-mail to 2257@streamray.com just to verify the age of this model.
That makes sense.
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Old 2006-01-19, 05:37 PM   #5
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She does look underage to me, and I wouldn't use that banner. Still, there's nothing in the text "innocentleila" that implies she's underage. If AFF has her valid ID then that's good enough for me. It might still be a good idea to remove her from the ad and create a teen niche filter for webmasters that want to filter out portraits of youngish looking models.
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Old 2006-01-19, 05:52 PM   #6
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...Still, there's nothing in the text "innocentleila" that implies she's underage.
By itself no, but in combination with the youthful appearance...

Perhaps I go a little beyond the line on this topic. I don't even allow the words "teen" or "young" to be used on galleries submitted to my TGP's. I'd rather there not be any question about the content on my sites in regards to age of the models.
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Old 2006-01-19, 09:08 PM   #7
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By itself no, but in combination with the youthful appearance...

Perhaps I go a little beyond the line on this topic. I don't even allow the words "teen" or "young" to be used on galleries submitted to my TGP's. I'd rather there not be any question about the content on my sites in regards to age of the models.
Yup

I tend to scrutinize teen sites very carefully myself. None of the teddy bears and braces bullshit...and I wouldn't touch that banner with a ten foot pole.
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Old 2006-01-23, 03:18 PM   #8
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Hypocrisy ?

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By itself no, but in combination with the youthful appearance...

Perhaps I go a little beyond the line on this topic. I don't even allow the words "teen" or "young" to be used on galleries submitted to my TGP's. I'd rather there not be any question about the content on my sites in regards to age of the models.
Toby/Mr Yum: I am not directing my comments to you personally but only use your post(s) to illustrate a common example of many other posts I've seen at many boards. I'm not trying to piss anybody off OR tell them how they should run their business.... just some food for thought that I'm sure is written in an overly harsh way because I just hate hypocrisy.

The above reflects a general trend that one can come across quite often and really deserves some thought. Everyone agrees that no one wants CP in any context. BUT its disingenuous to cry about political interference on the one hand and then say on the other ooooo, she "looks" too young. Cripes its not her fault and if she is legal and has appropriate documentation and is sponsored by a reputable site how is it that a WM can feel comfortable with "censoring" her from making an income? If one doesn't have the guts to stand up then one shouldn't be in the business. If you are helping to enforce the atmoshpere of fear by self regulating materials that might, maybe, could piss someone off or won't portray porn that is "seeming" to skate close to some edge (in your opinoin) regardless of it being legal then you need to question whether there is another biz that's better suited to your fearful, squimish, gutless, lazy, nature. Legal is legal. There are now a ton of solo girl sites that are legal and use the proverbial "teddy bear" props or coy "finger to the mouth" looks. If you self censor these sites you are falling right into the hands of what you are complaining about in some other post about government over reaching. Of course you can run your biz the way you want. But think about hypocrisy and what it means? Also, how 'bout this "due diligence", know who you are working with, verify the reputable natures of the paysites you sponsor, research, etc. Lazy bottom feeding is repugnant and if a WM is failing to support sites that they know have their shit together and are legal (I mean how much more solid can you get than AFF?) because "they don't want any trouble.... then IMHO they should just beat it out the door. When do people get it through their heads that this is a "trouble" business?

Thank you for letting me get that off my chest...
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