"Political Influence of Adult Sites" and "Free Speech Coalition" pressure.

[Surfn]

My final word on this subject. The input from all interested parties should be weighed before a final decision. If you get a consensus by throwing out the far left and the far right you have something with broad appeal.

[Halfdeck]

Originally Posted by Bill

1. For instance, here's an idea. We know FSC will bitch about the cost of revamping their website. So we have a fund&skills drive here at GG&J, pull together the few thou and the workers it will take to give them a CC processor and a blog.

Sounds good to me Bill.

What about an informal get together at Phonix Forum, where we can listen to you and maybe, maybe come to some sort of consensus about these issues?

Hi Tom, thanks for droppiong by.

If you're referring to the get-together in Arizona ... it would be far easier if we could set up a one-hour live chat session where any webmaster can participate without hopping on a plane.

[Toni KatVixen]

You can NOT discuss porn with out the feminist view. You are using women to make your money but IT is our pussies, our tits & our ass out there.....it sure isn't yours.

The 2 biggest arguments used against us in porn are:
1) protect the children
2) it DEGRADES WOMEN

The only way to fight against those arguments is to know what all sides are saying INCLUDING the feminist side, which will team up with the bible-thumpers.

You as a male, DO NOT represent how we women are viewed or treated since we are the ones in front of the camera getting fucked. This industry is so sexist that you just write us women off as if we have nothing to say. Hell, I see it at the conventions all the time, if a girl is in front of the camera she is not taken seriously as a business partner, just piece of meat.

Prime example, Furry Girl brings up a valid point and you write it off as her youth and patronize her?!? If it was coming from a male, you would not have being so dismissive.

[Bill]

Well, as far as I'm concerned, the idea of trying to get female spokepersons and representatives is so inherently and obviously smart that it really doesn't need to be defended.

The questions remaining on that are tactical - who to cultivate, how to get them practice at public performance, how to pay them, etc..

And, as I said before, I don't think we are at that stage yet. When we have some women who are willing to take on the responsibility, then we can analyze their style of presentation and talk about wether it's too feminist or not feminist enough.

However, right now we are in a much earlier stage of the political game. The task ahead of us is to get enough organization and energy to be able to worry about things like paying a spokesperson.

Which brings me back to brainstorming. The idea is to throw in ideas for what we want the FSC to do. If you had the power to get the FSC to do anything you wanted, lets say within, oh, $5,000 to $50,000 worth of something, what would that be?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by KatVixen

You can NOT discuss porn with out the feminist view. You are using women to make your money but IT is our pussies, our tits & our ass out there.....it sure isn't yours.

There's is absolutely no question about that, and from what I read at the start of this discussion I think many also believe it's better to have a notable adult industry woman as the main spokesperson. Where I see a problem is in the labeling of those views as "feminist" rather than simply including them as part of the overall position statement.