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Old 2006-02-16, 10:04 PM   #1
SirMoby
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Let's see the position papers. I think they're going to require a lot of work and agreement and until they're right and everyone is on the same page I'd like to stay focused on the most basic of issues.

I want our stance very clear on the FSC website. I've heard many lawyers speak including another one 2 nights ago and they don't seem to have a message that the American people can understand. Until that's in place there's no reason to move on to other things.
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Old 2006-02-16, 10:47 PM   #2
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Well, I wouldn't think this would be the best time to take off the pressure, but I wouldn't mind taking a couple month break from thinking about this stuff.

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I tried to log into whatever that private area is on the FSC website, but the ID/pass I was using didn't work. I used the forgotten password link to get the password, but get an invalid message.

Anybody else getting inside that area? What's in there?
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Old 2006-02-17, 05:15 AM   #3
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Let's see the position papers. I think they're going to require a lot of work and agreement and until they're right and everyone is on the same page I'd like to stay focused on the most basic of issues.

I want our stance very clear on the FSC website. I've heard many lawyers speak including another one 2 nights ago and they don't seem to have a message that the American people can understand. Until that's in place there's no reason to move on to other things.
Don't hold your breath...

Even if you get almost everyone on the same page, the issues involved here will naturally entail certain differences of opinion. The important goal to move forward is to achieve a consensus that at least MOST folks can agree on.

You are absolutely right about the attorneys... but that is par for the course... everything they say is a matter of opinion based on their interpretations... We have to decide what works for us and part of that is realizing clearly what risks we are willing to take as well as what risks need to cleary be avoided. For the risks we are willing to take we need to be prepared to go the distance to prove our point, set a precedent, and hopefully enact positive change.
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Old 2006-03-17, 01:22 AM   #4
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Okay, we took a month's break from talking about the FSC, and from putting pressure on them, waiting nicely to see if they would do anything, get back to us, or even talk much about the online sector in their newsletters.

It looks like the answers are no, no, and as far as I can tell, no.

So let's see if we can fire off the old boardtracker, and start discussing our political options vis a vis the Free Speech Coalition again.

We got the House of Representatives trying to push a bill to make 2257 apply to us secondary producers, and we got democrat senators trying to introduce a mandatory .xxx bill in the senate.

If we don't get proactive we are going to be handed the shitty end of the stick.

So, I'll probably be starting a new thread soon.
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