Do you think surfers were spoiled, or have been burned.

[bunky2u]

you can't satisfy everybody...

What would you consider to be an ideal site that would maintain a high recurrance of memberships?

[sbm4latinaz]

Originally Posted by bunky2u

you can't satisfy everybody...

What would you consider to be an ideal site that would maintain a high recurrance of memberships?

I'm not saying you have to have one supersite for all peoples tastes, but within your niche you can, and proof of that is the fact that most sites know what to say to bring people, but when you get there its a different story.
So the ideal would be if the sites had what they say they had.
If you call yourself an amateur site then have actual amateur content not a bunch of staged pro-am crap, if you are a latina site, dont try to pass off dark haired white girls with tans off as latina, if you have an indian site have actual indian women not english or american women who's parents were indian.
If you have an amateur milf site dont try to pass off washed up pornstars from the 70's and 80's as houswives(they are not amateurs). if you say you have pornstars have actual pornstars and not just some girl that posed in penthouse in 1997, and a few ex hustler models.

All I'm saying is have what you say you will have.

[Surfn]

I have no problem selling to surfers

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Surfn

I have no problem selling to surfers

Yeah, but ... you've been doing this for hundreds of years.

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Simon

Yeah, but ... you've been doing this for hundreds of years.

An Uzi doesn't hurt either

I would never agree with the surfer being spoiled or the members. Not if you take the Internet as a whole.

We all sell porn content, what ever you do the money flowing into the business does so from PORN CONTENT sales.

So how many porn shooters can sell there product anywhere else? What shooter is selling to magazines? Say what you like about style a decent magazine set is worth $2,000. so why aren't more stills shooters selling to magazines? Simple answer is they are not good enough.

So lets look at DVDs. How many companies are selling to the DVD side of porn? Very few that I know of. Again the simple answer is the content is not good enough.

So we on the Internet specialise in Amateur. Which does not carry across to magazines or DVD. BULLSHIT.

Look at the sets in Razzle, Escort, Readers Wives, Barely Legal, Tight, Score Eighteen and you will see a healthy sprinkling of new models shot in Amateur style.

Now go down to the local DVD shop and again you see the same. The best selling lines are GONZO, which is very similar to Amateur and a lot of the sites on the NET. We call it POV.

Unless if by Amateur you mean amateur photographer shooting a paid model. In this niche we are the tops.

We've been reviewing a lot of sites recently for our new review site. most of them are not worth $30 a month and some are not even worth $10 IMO.

But some sites totally spoil the surfer. Alsscan, Sapphic Erotica, Twistys and a few more. They deliver a full months worth of content for the $30. Content in a decent size, clarity, that fits the niche and delivers the right effect.

How many other sites compare to these?

[sbm4latinaz]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham2

I would never agree with the surfer being spoiled or the members. Not if you take the Internet as a whole.

We all sell porn content, what ever you do the money flowing into the business does so from PORN CONTENT sales.

So how many porn shooters can sell there product anywhere else? What shooter is selling to magazines? Say what you like about style a decent magazine set is worth $2,000. so why aren't more stills shooters selling to magazines? Simple answer is they are not good enough.

Actually there are allot of good amateur magazines out there, problem is that they are usually over priced.

So lets look at DVDs. How many companies are selling to the DVD side of porn? Very few that I know of. Again the simple answer is the content is not good enough.

eeeerrrr ever heard of "home grown" ?
yes you are right on the DVD/VHS side of porn allot of good amateur series quickly become pro-am once the series takes off, "dirty debutants" 1 - 4 was real amateur after that it became pro-am, but "home grown" is still true amateur. and a few others

So we on the Internet specialise in Amateur. Which does not carry across to magazines or DVD. BULLSHIT.

I cant agree there, it is very very hard to find real amateur, most of the crap I find on the net is pro-am, a rule of thumb I use is if you have to guess if its amateur then its not amateur.

Look at the sets in Razzle, Escort, Readers Wives, Barely Legal, Tight, Score Eighteen and you will see a healthy sprinkling of new models shot in Amateur style.

I agree to a point.

Now go down to the local DVD shop and again you see the same. The best selling lines are GONZO, which is very similar to Amateur and a lot of the sites on the NET. We call it POV.

Unless if by Amateur you mean amateur photographer shooting a paid model. In this niche we are the tops.

Now I mean amateur photography shooting non-models, much the way homegrown is with DVD's.

We've been reviewing a lot of sites recently for our new review site. most of them are not worth $30 a month and some are not even worth $10 IMO.

But some sites totally spoil the surfer. Alsscan, Sapphic Erotica, Twistys and a few more. They deliver a full months worth of content for the $30. Content in a decent size, clarity, that fits the niche and delivers the right effect.

How many other sites compare to these?

outside of southerncharms and dreamnet there is not much "true" amateur stuff out there and even some of them ruin it by photoshoping their pics to death or hiring pro photographers and making their sets look staged.