Metal Cash (you have to read it from bottom to top)

[Boogie]

this thread is great

[MrYum]

Wow! This thread became a party! And quite an enlightening one at that! Kinda interesting to watch a program burn bridges in a public forum

I'm not even going to repeat all the obvious things...it's already been said so many times and OBVIOUSLY isn't getting through

Ummm...Josh, if you think this thread hasn't cost you affiliates...you might just be more clueless than your monkey boy

Agreed UW, let's make sure this thread pops up on searches for Metal Cash

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Lots of webmasters did two sales with our program, more did one, we have smaller webmasters and bigger webmasters, you're in the middle.

If you think our #1-13 affiliates do 1-2 joins a day each you're straight out wrong....

I never said any of that. What I said was that I'm ranked 14th & I've done 2 sales in this pay period (2 weeks). So obviously, 1 thru 13 have 2 or more sales in the last 2 weeks. My comments was that based off your numbers of contacting 400 webmasters by ICQ instead of sending out a newsletter is this: I don't think you have more than 400 webmasters & that a newsletter would have been just fine. I think your little ICQ fest was a way to make all of your affiliates feel special & warm & cozy because you're letting them in on a "secret" I was also attempting to make a jab that if I'm 14th with 2 sales this pay period, then I....well, I'll let others draw their own conclusions

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

...I don't understand where you guys get the "cold calls" and "telemarketing" bullshit from - I'm not trying to sell you anything, I just wanted to tell you about our new sites.

I don't care if you only have 1 site, I start off with everybody giving them galleries to see where they direct me since MOST webmasters own more than 1 site - you're the ONLY person to turn it into such a big issue...

If you assume that every webmaster has a TGP, then you are a complete ass & you have no business as a marketing rep. You should have done some homework.

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Affiliates are everything right? Everybody knows paysites can't thrive without affiliates! ...

Then why even have the program? Close it down if affiliates don't mean that much to you.

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

I have never once, not once been left alone after I've said "No thanks" to an affiliate manager.

If an affiliate manger quits there, they are bad reps....

So because you've been treated with disrespect in the past, you advise your people to treat affiliates with disrespect as well?

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

...We have many tools to offer so if an affiliate doesn't like one, we can offer them more.

So why not start out by saying that instead of assuming that everyone needs galleries?

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

Obviously neither of you run affiliate programs. To think that the first 10affiliates aren't doing 200+ sales a period each is being oblvious and stupid.

Obviously there is a drop, but I doubt it comes right at 10.

Originally Posted by Josh@MetalCash

When people insult me and my program it's offensive and it's like punching me. When someone punches me I don't sit around and do nothing...

Now you know how I felt as soon as CaptainObvious asked me if I wanted some galleries for my script.

[Surfn]

BTW MetalCash is now banned from all my traffic pumps. Have a nice day and on with the show

[Boogie]

Metalcash,

making complete asses of themselves on the only board that is pure business, so everyone will see it (unlike other boards where it would get burried with "HOT OR NOT LOL (PICS) threads".

i fucking LOVE this thread.

[Boogie]

I have used this thread to create a new business plan inspired by what I have learned today

1) create an affiliate program
2) insult webmasters via ICQ
3) when he defends himself publicly, insult everyone who agrees with him
4) profit

what do you guys think?

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by Boogie

I have used this thread to create a new business plan inspired by what I have learned today

1) create an affiliate program
2) insult webmasters via ICQ
3) when he defends himself publicly, insult everyone who agrees with him
4) profit

what do you guys think?

hmmm... I think 1+2+3 does not equal 4

[Linkster]

All Ive got to say after reading this and remembering the last go-around with this "team" I had to laugh out loud

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=11361

Oh yeah - and this is where LL owners outted them for using multiple personalities to submit free sites

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=7571

[Surfn]

Originally Posted by Linkster

All Ive got to say after reading this and remembering the last go-around with this "team" I had to laugh out loud

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=11361

Oh yeah - and this is where LL owners outted them for using multiple personalities to submit free sites

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=7571

Glad to see I'm not the only one who's memory still works

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by Linkster

All Ive got to say after reading this and remembering the last go-around with this "team" I had to laugh out loud

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=11361

Oh yeah - and this is where LL owners outted them for using multiple personalities to submit free sites

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=7571

Ah, I hadn't made the connection...thanks for the slam dunk Linster

Given the history, this thread isn't really so surprising now. This team lives and dies by skirting the edges, then simply shutting down when too many bad decisions mount up. The good news is...with the kind of business savvy displayed here...they very likely won't be around long.

[sue-fl]

WOW!! I just read all the posts!

Called Greenguy an asshole
Put down affiliates, talking like you don't need us.
Insulted a lot of other people from this board.

You have only screwed yourselves, and you'll realize that soon enough. That fact that you won't apologize to Greenguy is so messed up. I would never want to be an affiliate for your program, but that's ok cause you don't need us anyways.........

[EvilFubAr]

Originally Posted by Boogie

I have used this thread to create a new business plan inspired by what I have learned today

1) create an affiliate program
2) insult webmasters via ICQ
3) when he defends himself publicly, insult everyone who agrees with him
4) profit

what do you guys think?

Step one: steal underpants...

[Boogie]

linkster hits with the double kill A+

[RawAlex]

Wow, nice to see this thread has taken on a life of it's own. It is also really funny to watch people try to squirm away from the obvious.

Captain Obvious: I think the most obvious thing at play here is that you very likely live in your mom's basement, aren't old enough to get a drink in Vegas, and have the social skills of poorly formed concrete (IE: none). You started uninformed, moved along to rude, stepped through individually insulting and moved right on to insulting pretty much all potential affiliates for the program. I would have to say that Josh is getting good value for money here, provided you are paying him.

Your name calling insulting "asshole" and "asshat" might not raise an eyebrow over at go fark thyself, but here you are pretty much done, reduced to the level of unamusing child banging the back of my seat on an airplane.

Josh, let me give you a business tip: When your "staff" starts calling your affiliates names, the best choice usually is to come in, explain that your new affiliate guy is, well, uncultured, and apologize for his potty mouth. Coming here and standing behind his insults and rude behavior and adding your own on the top tells me that the captain learned his affiliate skills from you. Sadly, you had no skill, so he learned nothing.

I am totally shocked that I can type metalcash without it being turned into ******** at this point.

Metalcash sites go off my acceptable program lists as well.

Alex

[nekrom]

I read 5 pages of hilarity, cired tears of laughter, read it all over again & then noted to myself said program are yoyo's.

-N

[Vivaldi]

this post has it all ... the plot, the drama and the BIG BANG at the end ...
so after 5 pages I'm ready to take'em off but then realized I didn't even signup for them :-)
lucky me

[CrazySy]

Here is another program I would never touch, oh wait......they don't need me anyways

[nibbler]

This is just fuckin unbelievable. I went to metalcash.com to check them out and noticed that CaptainObvious was hired just 10 days ago. Exactly what are the criteria the HR department use when hiring empoyees:

1) Must be able to cause drama on adult webby boards
2) alienate many current and potential affiliates
3) piss off large LL webmaster affiliates

|badidea|

[MrYum]

Originally Posted by nibbler

This is just fuckin unbelievable. I went to metalcash.com to check them out and noticed that CaptainObvious was hired just 10 days ago. Exactly what are the criteria the HR department use when hiring empoyees:

1) Must be able to cause drama on adult webby boards
2) alienate many current and potential affiliates
3) piss off large LL webmaster affiliates

|badidea|

Yup, but this thread isn't going to cost them any business...nope, not at all cuz they're soooo smart and don't need affiliates anyway |badidea|

Oh, almost forgot... "Metal Cash" ... "MetalCash" ... "METAL CASH"

[Boogie]

I mean I think that this metalcash review serves as a great discussion for metal cash review and it gives metal cash a lot to think about. I mean if you're wondering whether or not metal cash, also known as metalcash at metalcash.com may be cheaters or non payers or something, this thread would be a great way to find out by reading this thread especially if you're coming from google or other engines.

[fetish1]

Originally Posted by Boogie

I mean I think that this metalcash review serves as a great discussion for metal cash review and it gives metal cash a lot to think about. I mean if you're wondering whether or not metal cash, also known as metalcash at metalcash.com may be cheaters or non payers or something, this thread would be a great way to find out by reading this thread especially if you're coming from google or other engines.

I think that deserves repeating!!


NOTE: Not slamming EVERYONE who is young, but this may explain some of the lack of business sense....
From another board:
Posted January 4th by uvort (aka Josh): "Just turned 20 2 months ago"

[BOSS]

Originally Posted by fetish1

I think that deserves repeating!!


NOTE: Not slamming EVERYONE who is young, but this may explain some of the lack of business sense....
From another board:
Posted January 4th by uvort (aka Josh): "Just turned 20 2 months ago"

I am 22 still in university....and I think I know how to talk to people...
Please let me know if I am wrong.

I think these guys are just misderecting their frustrations...and this biz is full of them. Like when I started out nobody wanted to trade links with me but I did not call them assholes...I understood and said: thank you and when I get more traffic I hope you change your mind

[Simon]

Maybe we need a minimum age requirement. Not just for posting here, but for being an adult webmaster. Or at least for running paysites and affiliate programs.

Then again, maybe we just need a test.

Something like "draw lines to connect the webmaster names on the right-hand column with the websites they own in the left-hand column."

[RawAlex]

Step two: Soil the underpants

[juggernaut]

I would love to be a fly on the wall when they start seeing the traffic stats fall and have the hardest time getting them back up (if they can). We have all been there. You try something to increase the traffic and the next few days watch it like a hawk only to see it's not really doing what you had hoped and now you have to come up with a new plan. Oh man that just sucks, but when you do it to yourself it's kind of funny.