Setting Up A Directory: My Adventures

[Fido]

It will be VERY hard to make some noticeable $$$ in the first 12 months of LL's life. Anyway - good luck on your journey

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by Fido

It will be VERY hard to make some noticeable $$$ in the first 12 months of LL's life. Anyway - good luck on your journey

Oddly enough, I told that to kristian when he approached me about this project

[plateman]

about 3 to 4 years, one of the biggest things a LL needs in search engine traffic and with the explosion of new LL the last 3 or 4 years it's very very hard to get any love from google with a LL of 2 to 3 years old.. I'll tell you what you need the most important thing - loyal submitters that will stay submitting for the long haul, you need there content and most important the back links, thats the thing that you need tons of to rank in google and other engines..

from my experiance you could have a decent traffic flow, but if you don't have any SE traffic for niche terms your not gonna make hardly any sales...

also dont start with a lot of categories that you cant add links to on a regular basis, se's love fresh content so having pages that don't get many submissions to hurts a LL IMO...

plus you gotta be willing to build feeder pages to send some traffic to it..

also dont buy any traffic unless its well stocked with enough links to get a few bookmarkers... another thing that buying traffic once and awhile will help is keeping your submitters interested in still submitting..

also be willing to work on it for next to nothing in return for a long time..

I hope that info is helpfull and on line with most LL owners..

also all those category trades you see on some of the LL's surprisingly dont send a whole lot of hits, and very very few sales as most of all the trades are towards the bottom where most of the free lookers run out of links and go to a trade, but it is also possible to get buyers from trades but not often....

[kristian]

Greenguy -- Thanks a lot to you and Jim for your support on this and cheers for the welcome back!

[kristian]

Originally Posted by Fido

It will be VERY hard to make some noticeable $$$ in the first 12 months of LL's life. Anyway - good luck on your journey

I agree, although I wish it weren't so! I'm looking at this like setting up a store in town or the local mall. If I break even in the first year, excellent. If not, then it's pretty much par for the course.

[kristian]

Plateman -- Your LL rocks, dude. Hope you'll keep giving advice as we go along. As to your advice so far: excellent stuff. I'm going the 1980s route here in my office and jotting down stuff in my shiny new notepad. Have added all of that. I might be asking your advice on feeder pages when I am active, if that is alright.

[Preacher]

Wow, this is going to be a very interesting thread. I'm especially interested to see how your experience stacks up to mine. My guess is you will do better having one foot in the door already, with traffic trades, feeders, networking and whatnot.

If you're curious about anything a new list goes through or anything, from a new lists perspective, just ask. It can be a frustrating road sometimes, toolbar-PR drops, traffic drops, loss of good submitters, loss of decent rankings on something you ranked well on a week ago.

But hopefully patience will be rewarded.

[kristian]

Originally Posted by Preacher

Wow, this is going to be a very interesting thread. I'm especially interested to see how your experience stacks up to mine. My guess is you will do better having one foot in the door already, with traffic trades, feeders, networking and whatnot.

If you're curious about anything a new list goes through or anything, from a new lists perspective, just ask. It can be a frustrating road sometimes, toolbar-PR drops, traffic drops, loss of good submitters, loss of decent rankings on something you ranked well on a week ago.

But hopefully patience will be rewarded.

Hi Preacher

Very pleased to have you here! I hope we can all do well together - with sharing info and networking together. Now that you've made the offer, you can count on me picking your brain. I really know bugger all about running a LL. You'll get sick of me bugging you eventually

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by kristian

Hi Preacher

Very pleased to have you here! I hope we can all do well together - with sharing info and networking together. Now that you've made the offer, you can count on me picking your brain. I really know bugger all about running a LL. You'll get sick of me bugging you eventually

No worries, though sometimes my brain is too adled to pick. Feel free to add me to your ICQ, I'm online a lot.

And good luck!

[kristian]

We have a ton of options here. As I will make a habit of doing, I'm just going to write what's on my mind. I'm not trying to educate here or anything, just brainstorming, and looking forward to suggestions, ideas, you name it.

One philosophy for choosing your porn niche is to go with what you know and love. Another philosophy is to decide on a gap in the market and fill it. I might try a bit of both.

Here are some options:

- General Link List
- Niche Link List
- Micro-Niche Link List (shemale midgets, for instance)
- All Pic Link List
- All Movie Link List
- Blog Link List

Cracking the market as a general link list might be creating extra work for ourselves, I think. And the problem with going too niche-specific would be getting the content. I'm thinking not too many of us submit shemale midget free sites.

I think the gaps with the greatest available content exist in movies and blogs.

Since a blog link list would (IMO) require a customised script to make full use of syndication possibilities, I think I'm going to take the movie route.

Lots of competition, sure, but not as much as pics and movies. There also seems to be interest in the niche from submitters (scanning the threads here on gg&j).

Right, ok, so I'm decided : MOVIES!

[kristian]

I already forgot one of the reasons for this thread. lol Although I THINK I'm decided on movies, if anyone has better ideas, just hollar!