Jays XXX Links Stats - 2005 / 2006 (9/2005 - Present)

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

1. On all of the programs that a revshare only...obviously, I go with Revshare. On some like Bangbros, Nastydollars and Hodough -- I like to blend...send half the traffic PPS and the rest revshare. It make for a nice effect. AFF, Triple X Cash, Joins right now -- revshare only. I can get more specific if anyone else has more questions....

Don't you think it's a bit useless to mix the 2? Revshare, especially those with trials, will give you a much lower $/click total. Ranking them along side of PPS programs is useless, but then you throw in the PPS/Revshare mix on some of them & the totals become completely useless. Plus, if it's a revshare program that does not have trials, the conversion rations will be much higher then those that do have a trial & thus, they should not be ranked together. At the very least, post the PPS numbers by themselves & then post the revshare numbers in a different column.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

2. On "BEST RETAINING / REBILLING REVSHARE" -- it includes both. I took the total amout of income, divided my the number of signups and factored in the # of months so I had an average number to work with...

I don't know what that means Can you give me an example of the formula using fake numbers?

Originally Posted by xxxjay

3. "Are all the totals for the last 9 months or are some longer/shorter time frames?" = Last 9 months.

How'd you come up with the numbers for Pussy Cash? I ask because I have Adam send me spread sheets since their admin is not very helpful for running stat totals. You can do it, but you'd have to go in & click each pay period & then click each program & get the totals & then add them up yourself & that's take the better part of a day to do it for 9 months (if anyone doesn't believe me, go find an old pay period & total up your clicks, sales & money and time how long it takes, then multiple that by 18)

There was another one that I found last week when I posted that only gave you the last 3 months (like Flash Cash used to do) but their name escapes me

Originally Posted by xxxjay

4. "You don't seriously think that Perfect Gonzo is the ONLY program on that list that doesn't publish's 1st page hits?" = No. I just think they abuse the numbers the worst. I know there are others. I was supposed to have some stats software that would detect and equalize those ratios, but there were some coding bugs, so I had to release the stats just on the info I was getting from them. Next time, I should have it.

So your list is useless? I mean, you can't compare totals for 1st page & 2nd page clicks like you have them sorted. You might as well just put them in a random or alphabetical order.

And how can you say that Perfect Gonzo is a "good program" if you think their number are off & thus, you have no idea what your ratios & per click numbers are?

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Don't you think it's a bit useless to mix the 2? Revshare, especially those with trials, will give you a much lower $/click total. Ranking them along side of PPS programs is useless, but then you throw in the PPS/Revshare mix on some of them & the totals become completely useless. Plus, if it's a revshare program that does not have trials, the conversion rations will be much higher then those that do have a trial & thus, they should not be ranked together. At the very least, post the PPS numbers by themselves & then post the revshare numbers in a different column.

First, you do a lot better and more thorough job on your stats than I. As far as the mixing goes, I think it is a totally smart thing to do in some instances. Take a program like Bangbros that has ome older sites with a shit-ton of episodes. I find those work out better Revshare ON THE OLDER SITES with more content...there is so much there the people stay forever. For the newer Bangbros sites I just run with the PPS becasue they doon't have a good of a retention. When the two are "blended" it makes for some nice sized checks showing up.

I would love to have the time to break down everything as you said, but these stats are not the bible. If you are submitting free sites to me...they are of use to webmasters becasue they know what is converting. I wish revstats still worked so I could drill down to single sites more than Statsremote does.

Originally Posted by Greenguy

I don't know what that means Can you give me an example of the formula using fake numbers?

Ok, say with moneycashmegabankmoneybucksbing I did 30 sales over a nine month period. Say 15 were 5$ trials and didn't rebill (37.50)$. That would be $37.50 on those initials. Then say 15 went to full joins ($225) and then of those 15 that 10 went to retain for an average of 3 months ($15 x 3 x 10 = $450). So we have $37.50 off the batch of crappy trial hoppers, $225 from the initials, and $450 from the rebills for a total of base number of $712.5....then you divide that by the number of initials (30) and you arrive at $23.75. Then you divide the $23.75 by the number of hits it took to make that sale and you have a value per click. So, in this case you would be better off taking a PPS for $30 if everything converted the same, but say that the revshare coverted 50% well as the PPS (mind you, this is all hypothical)...then you would make $35.62 on the same number of outgoing hits. The conversion ratio factors heavily into this.

Originally Posted by Greenguy

How'd you come up with the numbers for Pussy Cash? I ask because I have Adam send me spread sheets since their admin is not very helpful for running stat totals. You can do it, but you'd have to go in & click each pay period & then click each program & get the totals & then add them up yourself & that's take the better part of a day to do it for 9 months (if anyone doesn't believe me, go find an old pay period & total up your clicks, sales & money and time how long it takes, then multiple that by 18)

I used statsremote to figure that one out. I will have to investigate further. Thanks for the 411.

Originally Posted by Greenguy

So your list is useless? I mean, you can't compare totals for 1st page & 2nd page clicks like you have them sorted. You might as well just put them in a random or alphabetical order.

If my list is useless, it is no more useless than yours, hoes.com, onprobation or anyone else that post stats. Yes, I have taken time to try to factor these things, but it is not as simple as "this guy counts first" and "this guy counts second", some programs don't show hits from counrties they can't bill for, so programs don't display hits from certians IPs ect, some programs just plain shave...I could make a career out of just studying that shit if I wanted, but I'd rather not.

I am in beta with some new software (Captianstats) that is a desk based program that can equalize the numbers automaticly based on what is known about the programs hit counting (and no, it isn't my software) -- there were still bugs in it when I published these stats, so I couldn't use it. Anyone can hit me up if they want to try a beta copy (it's free) - I'll put you in touch with the guys that are coding it.

Originally Posted by Greenguy

And how can you say that Perfect Gonzo is a "good program" if you think their number are off & thus, you have no idea what your ratios & per click numbers are?

I make sales. Checks show up. I know the numbers are badly skewed, but it's the money that matters at the end of the day.