Gallery submissions no sales HELP!

[Toby]

There's more to it than just putting some thumbed images on a page with a couple of banners linked to sponsors and submitting to as many TGPs as you can find.

First step is to build effective galleries. Can you post links to some sample of your galleries?

[Mr. Blue]

Hi Radiohead, welcome to the forum.

First, posting some samples wouldn't hurt It's not just about submitting, but about getting listed, getting traffic, and making the most with that traffic.

You need to submit daily, never autosubmit, don't miss a day, build traffic and a reputation. Reputation is important as reviewers will start remembering your galleries and who you are.

Apply for partner accounts. While there's a lot of paid partner accounts now, I wouldn't recommend going that route until you have some experience under your belt. Still, with that said there are a lot of tgps still out there that give free partner accounts away. Having a partner account will get you listed more often, will get you higher on the page, and you stand a better chance of getting into the "sweet" spot of the tgp...the top 1/3rd of the page if you have a partner account.

When applying for partner accounts make sure that you submit 3 unique looking samples, don't use sponsor graphics (headers, footers, or ripped fhg), try not to use overused sponsors, make sure you follow all the rules, make sure you don't use a subdomain, make sure your domains aren't estdomains (as that will get you rejected instantly at most places), and basically put your best foot forward. Also it doesn't hurt posting on forums like this and a few others just so people "know" who you are...it makes it easier to request a partner account.

The sponsors you pick for tgps are very important. If you pick a saturated sponsor your conversion ratio will be considerably lower. If there's 100 webmasters all promoting the same sponsor, using the same sponsor content, etc, you'll soon find that the chance of getting listed greatly decreases and even if you do get listed you're competing against a lot of webmasters going after the same piece of the pie. Research, ask around, know which sponsors are saturated in the tgp market.

Niches, some niches work better than others on tgp traffic. Again, this is a thing you'll have to learn through trial and error.

Don't limit yourself just to TGPs. TGPs are great, you can make a very very nice profit off of them, but they shouldn't be the only thing you're focused on. The tgp market is harder for new webmasters to enter into at the moment, it isn't like it used to be, and you'll need to work even harder to make inroads. You should also focus on building Freesites, SEO them, and submitting to LLs. You should build SEO pages, hubs, blogs, toplists, etc, etc, etc. The key thing is to do as much as you can each day, build each day, and soon you'll see a steady stream of income coming in.

If you post some samples I'm sure the good people of this forum will be glad to help you along Also, build freesites and post for reviews here and listen to the advice that's given to you.

Good Luck

[radiohead181589]

Thanks for your advice everyone. I have created a sample gallery that is a little different than some of my prior attempts, the main being that I am not using any sponsor graphics at all. The gallery is located at:

http://orangellama.com/gals/06/0511/index.html

Tell me what you think. Also, through reading the replies so far, I've developed a few new questions as to the Free sites:

When I create free sites, what is the basic structure (number of pics/pages) of these sites and from where should I get the content? (from sponsor, free content, paid, etc...)

Thanks everyone

[karomesis]

welcome to the board.

First, how many galleries a day and to how many sites should a person expect to submit to with the hopes of at least one sale a week?

1 sale a WEEK? That shouldn't be too hard.


1 or 2 galleries to 100+ tgp's/mgp's will probably get you a couple of sales a week at least. However, if you use sponsor free hosted galleries your chances of getting listed are slim to none, so original work is needed.

Do you have photoshop? or an editor for html like dreamweaver? if not, then you will have to either get someone else to design them or purchase the software yourself and start the intimidating learning curve.|shocking|

I have used advanced submittor to submit galleries to 70-80 sites one gallery a day... and never a sale.

That could be a problem.Although autosubmitters can be a helpful tool in automating the submission process, they are often abused by individuals spamming the living shit out of the tgps with FHG's. One of the best ways to get sales is to get partner accounts from small tgps and work your way up to the larger ones by gaining the trust of the owners and making a good name for yourself. Trust in this business is worth it's weight in gold.

econd, how do you get a lot of the sites that you submit to to accept your galleries?

Read the rules, and then for safe measure read them again, most tgp owners do not suffer fools gladly. And anyone who does not read the rules is quickly consigned to the fool category. Also, like I already mentioned, use original galleries.