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Old 2006-05-18, 01:07 AM   #1
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DD, you wouldn't think that perhaps Matt Cutts might know exactly how to build a site to get good SE results, hmm?

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Old 2006-05-18, 01:32 AM   #2
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So far I can't say I've seen any big changes in the basic google results with bigdaddy. Most of what I have seen looks like "More of the same". More of a devalueing of the bottom two thirds of the web, more of an aristocracy of links ("trustrank", I suppose). A greater tendency to suppress results into supplemental.

No big change in the 'back end' is coming to mind.
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Old 2006-05-18, 03:05 AM   #3
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So far I can't say I've seen any big changes in the basic google results with bigdaddy. Most of what I have seen looks like "More of the same". More of a devalueing of the bottom two thirds of the web, more of an aristocracy of links ("trustrank", I suppose). A greater tendency to suppress results into supplemental.

No big change in the 'back end' is coming to mind.
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A greater tendency to suppress results into supplemental.
Bill, according to Matt Cutts, Google is not suppressing more results into the supplemental index. Google is indexing less pages from sites with low numbers of incoming/outbound trusted links, and that is causing supplementals to show through in the results. In other words, the numbers of supplemental pages hasn't grown; instead, the number of indexed pages from some borderline sites has dropped.

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No big change in the 'back end' is coming to mind.
As far as I know, Google hasn't implemented any big changes in their algorithm. What's changed is that now, according to Cutts, Google is "better at judging link quality" (i.e. identifying reciprocal links, linktrades, bought links). Pre Big Daddy, if your brand new 20,000 page (original, quality, exclusive, non-spammy...) site had a decent PR, Google will deep crawl / index it eventually. Post Big Daddy, depending on the types of links going in and out of your site (i.e. 100% hardlink trades), your site may never get indexed.

Anyway, that's the hype.
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So far I can't say I've seen any big changes in the basic google results with bigdaddy. Most of what I have seen looks like "More of the same". More of a devalueing of the bottom two thirds of the web, more of an aristocracy of links ("trustrank", I suppose). A greater tendency to suppress results into supplemental.
Bill, what I find the most scary in this is that it appears to be Google regressing to the past, putting way too much emphasis on older and established sites with significant "natural" deep linking, and giving little space or time for new sites with new ideas or concepts.

It is the reason why an insider page at PBS for a special on porn that aired February 7, 2002 continuously ranks in the top 20, even though the page has not been updates and is losing relevance in reality every day.

it goes back to my basic issue with Google: They appear to be way more interested in developing new products not related to search, and they don't appear to give a damn about making the SERPs any better than they have been for the last couple of years.

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