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Old 2006-06-27, 07:14 PM   #1
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Site review please!

Hi all!

Total newbie here! Just registered and this is my first ever post!

Very recently (on the 23rd) I submitted a few different free galleries to several major tgps to try and promote my pay site, which has just been inaugurated on the 15th, but am starting to feel that I might have jumped the gun.

The recips you'll see on the warning page are the tgps I submitted to. Naturally, I think, I received no post confirmations yet (except for a couple of minor tgps not included in the recips of the gallery I'm submitting to you here) cause I imagine those guys must have loads of subs to go through. But I'm getting kinda anxious anyway and would love to hear what you think to hopefully make things better for the future (that's if I can still have a future with those tgps...).

Could you please take a look at one of them and tell me what you think?

Here's the link:
http://www.toxsite.com/tgpsubs/tgpgs...606/index.html

Thanks in advance and all the best.

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Old 2006-06-27, 09:58 PM   #2
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Welcome to GG&J Zio

There is a welcome thread...you should probably pop in there and say hello too

On to your site...

Looks like as of today, your domain is on the spam blacklist...you'll want to get that fixed.

http://whois.domaintools.com/toxsite.com

Entry page...
Wow! Your keywords meta is pretty well jampacked. No need to spam your keywords meta...it doesn't do you any good. You really don't want any words in there that aren't on the page.

Javascript is a no no on free sites.

You can have up to 3 sponsor links per page, I'd suggest you utilize them. Even though, you're promoting your own site...might as well get the surfer to the juicy stuff asap

Main page...

I don't see any problems here

Gallery One...

"After enjoying these free samples, Visit Us" could be considered a borderline blind link if you were promoting a sponsor paysite. Given that you're promoting your own site, I'd have no problem with those links.

Some of your full size pics are on the heavy side, though not enough to cause a decline imo. Try to keep those full sized images down to 50-75k.

Gallery Two...

Here you do have a few pics that are huge and will likely cause declines. Anything over about 80k and you're pushing your luck.

Also, some of the thumbs look pretty funky with the gray borders top and bottom. If it's a horizontal image, either crop it to fit vertically...or adjust your gallery to display it horizontally.

That's all I got...all in all...a pretty darned nice site. Some minor tweaks and you should be good to go
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Old 2006-06-28, 04:14 AM   #3
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Smile Thanks

Thanks a lot MrYum!

I'm going to work on the stuff you're pointing out and make some changes asap.

I'll see what I can do about the blacklisting but, since I'm kinda flying a little high for my yet small wings, I hope I can take care of it. If not, I guess I'll be asking for help very soon on this issue...

I just can't believe that I'm already blacklisted! I've barely moved my first steps...

Thanks again for your help MrYum.

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Old 2006-06-28, 10:57 AM   #4
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Yea, not sure why...but I'm seeing more and more domains on that list

There is an appeal process I believe...hope it works for you
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Old 2006-07-03, 04:44 AM   #5
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Smile I think I fixed it... Please check it again...

Hi everybody and, particularly, Hello MrYum!

I think I fixed the problems MrYum pointed out.

No more java, reduced the pics size, cropped the thumbs, and took out the "borderline blind links".

Please check it again and let me know if I'm good.

Here's the link:
http://www.toxsite.com/tgpsubs/tgpgs...606/index.html

The blacklist problem is a whole other story and it is quite the nightmare! I'm trying to resolve it but it is not going to be easy, and at this point I'm in a purgatory where I don't even know if I'll be able to resolve this.
If you think I should fill everybody in I think I'll post a new thread and call it "Blacklisted: A cautionary Tale."|shocking|

General question: Having made the changes, assuming the site is ok, but still being blacklisted: do you think I'll be able to re-submit my galleries to anyone? Can I re-submit to the LLs you see on the warning page or should I crawl into a corner and disappear?

It's all for now!

Thanks again MrYum for the pointers and thanks everyone who stopped by and checked this thread (please drop a line if you can...).

Be well,

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Old 2006-07-03, 10:12 AM   #6
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Hi Zio...just took anther look at your site...and of course, I have a few comments. Wouldn't be me if I didn't have something to say

Entry page...

Didn't notice this previously...your site title might be a bit long for some link lists. Many have a limit of 3-5 words max for title. Also, you'll probably want to put your site title in the title meta.

Your keywords meta is still way over stuffed. Having all those words in there will do no good with search engines and could in fact be considered se spamming. There's really no need to have anything in your keyword meta that doesn't actually show up on the page. Which on that subject, you could certainly add some juicy text to the entry page...perhaps wrapped around a link or 2 to your paysite.

Main page...still looks fine...other than the over stuffed keyword meta and perhaps changing the title tag.

Gallery one...

Pics look fine now...you could wrap some juicy text above/below that top banner ad.

Gallery two...

Same comments as gallery one.

The other issue I see that may put off some reviewers is using 'tgp' in your url. Keep in mind that you're working on free sites which get submitted to link lists. Free sites are completely different from tgp galleries and some reviewers can get a bit cranky if a submitter doesn't seem to realize there's a difference. I'd suggest not using 'tgp' in your free site url's.

No solid advice for you on the blacklist issue. As previously mentioned, I've been seeing more and more domains show up on that list. Also, I can't speak for other reviewers...but for myself, I won't usually link to anything that's blacklisted.

If it's going to be prohibitive to get the domain cleared, buying another domain purely for free site submissions might be a good idea. I would be very interested in your cautionary tale as I'm curious as to what's causing so many domains to end up on that list. Might even cause me to re-think not listing sites that are on the list.
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Old 2006-07-03, 11:16 AM   #7
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As usual, MrYum has poured good advice all over you.

Only advice I'll add is use another domain exclusively for your free site submissions, and don't have them on the same domain as your paysite.

That will allow you to easily move them to a different server one day, when the time comes that you don't want all the hammering traffic from your free sites and galleries slowing down the server response time and costing you member cancelations.
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Old 2006-07-05, 04:21 AM   #8
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Solid

Thank you once again MrYum and thank you Simon.

I'll be working on changes asap and am already in motion to get the new domain. That's one solid piece of advice Gents!

Took care of the metatags right away but I intend to start over fresh (hopefully) once I'm set up with the new domain.

I'll be posting my blacklist cautionary tale before the end of the week.

Thanks again and I'll be in touch.

Be well,

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Old 2006-07-05, 11:01 AM   #9
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Sounds like a good plan Zio

Will look forward to seeing that cautionary tale...perhaps it will provide some clarity as to what's happening with that issue.
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Old 2006-07-13, 12:12 PM   #10
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Talking I'm back

Hy Gents,

Sorry for disappearing but life has a way of getting complicated...

Anyhow, I've worked on my free sites and feel I'm ready for your scrutiny again.

I've gotten the new domain and made changes. The new address is:
http://www.route2x.com/sub/ammom140706/index.htm

Can't thank you enough for all the help you've given me.

Look forward to your comments.

Peace!

Zio

P.S. Apologies for the delay on the cautionary tale, I'll be posting asap.
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Old 2006-07-13, 02:04 PM   #11
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Welcome back Zio

Congrats on the new domain...looking forward to your cautionary tale when you get to it...still very curious about that issue.

Okay...jumping into your new site...

Entry page...
Your keywords meta is still pretty stuffed...though better than the previous site. A general rule of thumb is not to put any words/terms in that keyword meta that dont' actually appear on the page. Also, another general rule is not to repeat the same word more than 3 times (note this includes using the word in terms). Meaning sex, hard sex, hardcore sex would be 3 times for the word sex.

You have no meta description tag. If you're going to use a keywords meta...might as well get a description meta in there too

Other than the metas, the entry page looks fine to me

You may want to remove the return link on your 2257 page. Many reviewers don't want to see any links whatsoever on that page. Besides, since that link returns to 'this' specific site...what will you do on your next free site? Add another link on the 2257 page...or create another 2257 page? Trust me...you're better off to simply remove the link and let em find their way back if they so desire. That page should get virtually no traffic anyway.

Okay, moving on to the main page...

I see no problems at all with this page

Gallery One...

Only comment here is that some reviewers may think your watermarks are a bit large and obtrusive.

Gallery Two...same comment as gallery one.

Overall...nicely done...site looks good
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Some URL/address suggestions for you...

It seems ".htm" isn't the default for your site, so if someone snips off the index.htm from your address, they get to see the directory listing. Compare what you see on these two addresses:
http://www.route2x.com/sub/ammom140706/index.htm
http://www.route2x.com/sub/ammom140706/

Same thing on this example:
http://www.route2x.com/sub/

There are a few ways to fix that, depending on what you want to have happen. If you're not sure what to do, let us know and you'll get some guidance here.

Separate from that, my suggestion is that you use something besides sticking the date in the address to track what you submitted and when. Put that info on a notepad/textfile or spreadsheet. Then you'll be free to create more search engine friendly addresses/directories.

For example, taking those things into account, your current site could have one of these addresses instead:

http: // www. route2x. com /milfs/amateur-moms/
http: // www. route2x. com /amateurs/amateur-moms/
http: // www. route2x. com /amateurs/milfs/amateur-moms/

A little bit more tasty for the spiders that way.
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Old 2006-07-14, 03:12 PM   #13
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Red face Oh yeah I'm a newbie

Hi guys!

More great advice.

And so my newbie status will emerge on this post...

MrYum: I'll take care of the return link on the 2257 page, the metatags, and the watermarks (which I believe would be the text around the banners right? ).

Simon: What you're pointing out seems very important but I'm afraid my ignorance prevents me from grasping how much. Could you please elaborate? Would this qualify as a security issue? I think I'll need that guidance you're offering... badly!
About the date on the address... It kinda felt wrong to put it there and from your comment I see that it is... I'll find an alternative and use your suggestion.

One more time: Thanks gents!

Catch you later.

Zio

P.S. The cautionary tale is up in the newbies section. I'll look forward to read what you think...
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Yes, it could be a security issue if you have things in those directories and subdirectories which you don't want the world to see. But aside from that, it's a waste of potential ad space.

If you don't already know how to set your default page, my guess is you can just tell someone at your hosting company and they will set this up for you.

First thing you can tell them is that you want to deny directory listings completely on your domain(s)/server.

To do it yourself you need to do make changes to your .htaccess file (or create one if there's none there already).

I believe you need to have this in your .htaccess file to prevent directory listings:

Options -Indexes

If you're working on an already-existing .htaccess file, look for "DirectoryIndex" and see what's listed there. You may see something like this:

DirectoryIndex index.html

If that's all that's there, or if it's missing completely, here's another example of what the line could say:

DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.php

What that does is tell the server what to do when someone requests, for instance, this address from the earlier example:

http://www.route2x.com/sub/ammom140706/

The DirectoryIndex line tells the server to look in the ammom140706 directory for these files, in this order: index.html, index.htm, index.shtml, or index.php

Basically it reads them from left to right on the DirectoryIndex line.

You can use whatever file names you want, those were just my examples. But if you had that line in your .htaccess file that controls those directories in the examples above, a surfer would have gotten served your index.htm page instead of seeing your directory listings.

If I lost you along the way, it's probably best to hit up your hosting support guys and tell them what you want to achieve. Most likely they can set this stuff up for you pretty quickly.
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MrYum is right about your keyword stuffing.

Start with these: amateurs moms buttplugs matures sexually explicit girls nasty veggies cukes sex toys dildos free porn links porn images videos free movies pics vids perverts smut fistings objects insertions fucking veggies amateurs moms pleasures

Those are the possible keywords for your page as it is right now.

All you need to do is remove any you don't want to try to rank for.

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Edited to add that I see you have the same stuffing problem on the main index page of the domain. You'll want to do something about that too. Suggestion would be to add some spider food--readable text--on the page that includes the keywords you want to try to target.
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Old 2006-07-16, 01:23 PM   #16
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Smile Hi gents

I contacted my programmers to deal with the directory issue and hope to fix it in the next few days. Thanks Simon, for that and the pointers on the metas. I made some changes in all the pages and it should be much better now.

On the same score, thank you MrYum for the meta description pointer and having pointed out the meta issue from the get go, I put in what I had at my disposal and it should do the trick.

By the way, sorry for the watermarks disaster... I've educated myself since then... In essence it's to conform to legal advice but also, from a practical standpoint, it's impossible to fix because I've cropped and watermarked every single one of my pictures. It's always been an issue in the corner of my eye, so to speak, but I've gotten used to it. I don't exclude and hope that it might change in the future.

See how it is now and tell me what you think: http://www.route2x.com/solo_amateur_...cuke/index.htm

Thanks again and regards.

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Looking good Zio

Keywords meta looks much better. Though now you do have a few description metas that only contain lang data. Might want to tidy those up a bit.

Completely understand about the watermarks. Though, I do think you'll have some reviewers that won't like em. Personally, I'd let em slide on an otherwise clean site
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Smile Hit me one more time please!

Hello Gents,

Could you please check the gallery out one last time?

Here's the link:
http://www.route2x.com/solo_amateur_...cuke/index.htm

I believe I've taken care of all that has been pointed out and I've completed the recips table (12 total). The only thing I'm still working on is the directory issue pointed out by Simon, but my hosting should be dealing with it as I'm writing this, so I hope it'll be fixed soon.

Depending on what you tell me I'll be submitting asap.

Thanks in advance.

Be well one and all!
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As soon as you do this:

<table width="800" border="2">

...you're going to cause a scroll at 800 width since you've already said the main table is 804 wide.

Directories are still listing the contents:
http://www.route2x.com/solo_amateur_sex/mom_loves_cuke/
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Hi Simon,

Man do I feel stupid!!!

I put it at 780 and it should take care of it. Check it please!
http://www.route2x.com/solo_amateur_...cuke/index.htm

I'm expecting a response from my hosting but the directory issue is being dealt with as we speak!

Thanks Sir!
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Yum a dumb dumb

Before I take Mr. Dumb's advice you better do your homework, this guy is a tool and he don't know what he's talking about. This dude plays hide the gerbel with his friends.

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Welcome to GG&J Zio

There is a welcome thread...you should probably pop in there and say hello too

On to your site...

Looks like as of today, your domain is on the spam blacklist...you'll want to get that fixed.

http://whois.domaintools.com/toxsite.com

Entry page...
Wow! Your keywords meta is pretty well jampacked. No need to spam your keywords meta...it doesn't do you any good. You really don't want any words in there that aren't on the page.

Javascript is a no no on free sites.

You can have up to 3 sponsor links per page, I'd suggest you utilize them. Even though, you're promoting your own site...might as well get the surfer to the juicy stuff asap

Main page...

I don't see any problems here

Gallery One...

"After enjoying these free samples, Visit Us" could be considered a borderline blind link if you were promoting a sponsor paysite. Given that you're promoting your own site, I'd have no problem with those links.

Some of your full size pics are on the heavy side, though not enough to cause a decline imo. Try to keep those full sized images down to 50-75k.

Gallery Two...

Here you do have a few pics that are huge and will likely cause declines. Anything over about 80k and you're pushing your luck.

Also, some of the thumbs look pretty funky with the gray borders top and bottom. If it's a horizontal image, either crop it to fit vertically...or adjust your gallery to display it horizontally.

That's all I got...all in all...a pretty darned nice site. Some minor tweaks and you should be good to go
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Before I take Mr. Dumb's advice you better do your homework, this guy is a tool and he don't know what he's talking about. This dude plays hide the gerbel with his friends.
You are a complete and utter fucktard. No one here cares about your opinions and false accusations.
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You are a complete and utter fucktard. No one here cares about your opinions and false accusations.
Yep, he had played out his welcome...glad he's gone
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Yep, he had played out his welcome...glad he's gone
I never report anyone for being an asshole (who am I to judge? ) but I reported his final post from this thread. (I didn't realize that Jim had already kicked his ass out the door.) You could see the pattern where he was just searching the board for people he didn't like and posting insulting bullshit to them.
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I never report anyone for being an asshole (who am I to judge? ) but I reported his final post from this thread. (I didn't realize that Jim had already kicked his ass out the door.) You could see the pattern where he was just searching the board for people he didn't like and posting insulting bullshit to them.
Yep, he was definitely going way over the top. It's one thing to call someone out for legitimate reasons. Something else entirely to make blatantly false accusations.

Kudos to Jim for giving the fucker the axe
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