Can someone have a look at this free site for me?

Useless · 2006-07-27, 01:51 AM

By today's free site standards, it's really quite horrific. But I mean that in the nicest possible manner. I'm honestly not trying to be a dick.

On the index:
The title isn't in the title bar. Only the word "dildo" is.
I've never seen the recip links on the very top. (Did you really submit it to DD's toplist?)
Every text link, including those in the recips, is that awful default blue color.
I'd prefer to see the graphic title on top, where it belongs.
Your adult warning is rather, well...more sales like than a warning. In fact, it may be the best text on the entire site.

On the main page (index2.htm):
Same situation with no real title in the browser title bar.
Text - "Yet Another Job The Robots Are Better At!!" Um, what?
No real story or build up. No real sales text.

Gallery one:
No title in the title bar (or on the page).
You thumb quality is very poor. You need to aim up to 5-7kbs each for small thumbs like that. They also look rather slipshod in there layout.
Two different banners for two different types of sites, yet no real sales push.

Gallery two:
No title in the title bar (or on the page).
HUGE banner ad loaded with blind thumbs - and it's all content you don't control, ie - it's hotlinked from a sponsor using Javascript (which is a banned element on free sites.)
Again, thumbs are scary.
You aren't attempting to promote anything.

In my opinion, you really need to surf around the GG's l-o-r or DD's and take a gander at modern free site structure and overall appearance. You really need to work on your sales text and approach. Don't waste your time building and submitting if you aren't selling anything. Sell, sell, sell.
I'm not one for the soft and cuddly approach, but this THE board to learn about free sites/link lists at and I have a sense that, even if that free site is junk, you are not a newbie.

SheepGuy · 2006-07-27, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

By today's free site standards, it's really quite horrific. But I mean that in the nicest possible manner. I'm honestly not trying to be a dick.

Ok Useless, yes you are a dick

No problem with me tho, you make some good points.
I'll do my thumbs with Fireworks and boost the quality as well as do a bit more homework on what's out there.
I'm not a newbie, but I'm here to learn so treat me as a newbie, and brutally honest is cool with me. I have thick skin and I haven't worked this part of the biz in a while.
My sales technique is far better than that example as well

Thanks man,

virgohippy · 2006-07-27, 03:43 AM

This thumb and this fullsize just don't sync in my eye. And I trust my eye far more than I trust any automation.

SSI for serving banners seems fine by me, just don't advertise it. Might give the newbies some bad ideas.

But as UW pointed out, the banner you've got up there has... like... 20 links? Plus the whole "what look like thumbs are actually linking to sponsors" thing. Ya have to be careful about that. If you have to, host the banner yourself, and fuck it up by slapping a big ass logo onto it... or better yet, some teaser text.

The only problem I have with java is that a lot of cheaters like to do sneaky shit with it, and a good freesite doesn't need it.

If you wanna keep using your hub, by all means continue to do so. Sounds like you've made quite an investement. Just thought it fair to warn you it might turn out to be a potential obstacle.

2006-07-27, 01:51 AM	#1
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	By today's free site standards, it's really quite horrific. But I mean that in the nicest possible manner. I'm honestly not trying to be a dick. On the index: The title isn't in the title bar. Only the word "dildo" is. I've never seen the recip links on the very top. (Did you really submit it to DD's toplist?) Every text link, including those in the recips, is that awful default blue color. I'd prefer to see the graphic title on top, where it belongs. Your adult warning is rather, well...more sales like than a warning. In fact, it may be the best text on the entire site. On the main page (index2.htm): Same situation with no real title in the browser title bar. Text - "Yet Another Job The Robots Are Better At!!" Um, what? No real story or build up. No real sales text. Gallery one: No title in the title bar (or on the page). You thumb quality is very poor. You need to aim up to 5-7kbs each for small thumbs like that. They also look rather slipshod in there layout. Two different banners for two different types of sites, yet no real sales push. Gallery two: No title in the title bar (or on the page). HUGE banner ad loaded with blind thumbs - and it's all content you don't control, ie - it's hotlinked from a sponsor using Javascript (which is a banned element on free sites.) Again, thumbs are scary. You aren't attempting to promote anything. In my opinion, you really need to surf around the GG's l-o-r or DD's and take a gander at modern free site structure and overall appearance. You really need to work on your sales text and approach. Don't waste your time building and submitting if you aren't selling anything. Sell, sell, sell. I'm not one for the soft and cuddly approach, but this THE board to learn about free sites/link lists at and I have a sense that, even if that free site is junk, you are not a newbie. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling. Last edited by Useless; 2006-07-27 at 01:55 AM..

2006-07-27, 03:43 AM	#3
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	This thumb and this fullsize just don't sync in my eye. And I trust my eye far more than I trust any automation. SSI for serving banners seems fine by me, just don't advertise it. Might give the newbies some bad ideas. But as UW pointed out, the banner you've got up there has... like... 20 links? Plus the whole "what look like thumbs are actually linking to sponsors" thing. Ya have to be careful about that. If you have to, host the banner yourself, and fuck it up by slapping a big ass logo onto it... or better yet, some teaser text. The only problem I have with java is that a lot of cheaters like to do sneaky shit with it, and a good freesite doesn't need it. If you wanna keep using your hub, by all means continue to do so. Sounds like you've made quite an investement. Just thought it fair to warn you it might turn out to be a potential obstacle. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.