Link O'Rama Rule Changes (yipee) - Page 4

Sexvilly · 2006-08-17, 02:24 PM

interesting,

I would even adjust my freesites pictures to 1200 rule if submitting to link-o-rama as with todays resolution these pictures will look just about the same as 550-345 looked yesterday, but I don't understand why more total pics?

Greenguy · 2006-08-17, 03:01 PM

Carrie - stop with the 20% angle - the only other increase would have been 10% & like I said, 11 pics per gallery is just silly. No one builds galleries with 11 pics (and if you do, please show me the template & I pray the 11th one is labeled "BONUS PIC!")

Jay's rules have been "You site must have at least 40 pics" for a long time - HOLY SHIT! That's a 100% increase over my old rules & 67% more than now (I think - my math sucks)

PK? "A combination of thirty (30) free pics..." AAAAHHHHH! That's 25% more than mine!!!!!

I was reading thru a lot of other Link List's rules yesterday & today, and while I was scratching my head as to why so many have copied mine (some word for word) I also realized that some of them don't say they have a minimum pic requirement (so I guess 2 is ok - or 4, which would be a 100% increase from 2) Some say they will reject the sites if the pics are too small, but they don't tell you what they consider "too small".

At lease I'm now telling everyone what's what

Also, just a general thought...no one else has mentioned anything that's NOT on the rules page....

virgohippy · 2006-08-17, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

No one builds galleries with 11 pics (and if you do, please show me the template & I pray the 11th one is labeled "BONUS PIC!")

I can tell Greenie's not the one reviewing my freesites.

Personally, I like odd numbers. They FORCE me to make unique layouts.

FYI:

3+3+5 = 11
5+4+2 = 11
2+3+6 = 11
2+9 = 11
8+3 = 11

All of which have worked for me.

Greenguy · 2006-08-17, 03:38 PM

9 pics in a row? 80 for the width of the thumbs?

virgohippy · 2006-08-17, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

9 pics in a row? 80 for the width of the thumbs?

Tall thumbs.

CrazySy · 2006-08-17, 04:38 PM

UW, thanks for compliment

What I don't get is as to why some people think they will be giving more free porn away? Does the rule say 4 extra hardcore images? NO, it does not. Simply add 4 more teaser images of the model

I have built sites with 30 images yet I gave away less than some sites with 20. It's not the quantity of the content, it's how you choose it.

I think majority of submitters don't like that just because of the fact some of their sponsors don't offer more than 20 per set.

Just my 2 cents

Now I better get my sorry ass back to work

WarBot · 2006-08-17, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazySy

Now I better get my sorry ass back to work

WAIT! Dont get your sorry ass back to work until you visit this thread
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...941#post293941
and give me some pointers please.

Ms Naughty · 2006-08-17, 08:14 PM

GG- A clarification please.
You say 24 pic minimum (12 per gallery) BUT what if I decided I wanted to create a freesite with 30 pics in 3 galleries? I'd be complying with the 24 pic minimum rule and the third page would give me another chance to put two more ads in front of the surfer.

When I first started making free sites I often made 3 gallery free sites because I thought it would be a good way to do a bit more advertising. I stopped when the rules started getting restrictive but this has reminded me of it.

Greenguy · 2006-08-17, 10:11 PM

grandmascrotum - it's still 12 per gallery page - if that part of the rule is not in there, I'd get sites with 4 pages & 6 pics on each (found that out a long time ago)

virgohippy · 2006-08-17, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

grandmascrotum - it's still 12 per gallery page - if that part of the rule is not in there, I'd get sites with 4 pages & 6 pics on each (found that out a long time ago)

Darn... 12+12+12 = 36 = too many at some places.

But maybe that will change.

Sexvilly · 2006-08-18, 10:19 AM

in case my question went unnoticed -

what point stand behind +4 pictures rule?

I see this: attract bookmarkers from other link-lists offering them more free porn than other lists who haven't yet got this rule?
but that's how tgp started it's destruction awhile ago, why follow this? everybody is making money now, why change anything? don't get the point.

(talking as free site submitter)

somebody mentioned in the thread before, better quality content = more sales for free site submitter. free site strategy has nothing to do with content at all and fact you are making most of your sales from index / main pages just proves it... content is to fill up link-list you're submitting to, that's why you want to use less amount of pictures allowed.

personally, going to stop submitting to every link-list from my database who copy this rule. for free sites submitters, it's not about traffic you receive from this or that link-list after all > it's about link-backs to get your free site indexed in SearchEngines in the end of the day. some forget this or haven't realised.

Greenguy · 2006-08-18, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexvilly

...what point stand behind +4 pictures rule?

I see this: attract bookmarkers from other link-lists offering them more free porn than other lists who haven't yet got this rule?
but that's how tgp started it's destruction awhile ago, why follow this? everybody is making money now, why change anything? don't get the point...

That statement is so off base, it's funny. 1st off, you're assuming that surfers know what the rules are from link list to link list (I'm not even going to start up the old debate that surfers know if they are on a TGP or a LL, because they don't) Surfers don't bookmark a LL because they see 24 pics & not bookmark a LL because they see 20 - they bookmark sites that the like.

The 2nd part is that you're even implying that I want to attract (dare I say, steal) bookmarkers from other LL's. That's really strange, since my main page has 40 or so links to other lists & my category pages have countless links to others as well. I'm not in a competition with any other link lists - I send traffic to Cleo, she send traffic to me. I send traffic to Linkster, he sends traffic to me. We all pretty much share our traffic with each other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexvilly

...somebody mentioned in the thread before, better quality content = more sales for free site submitter. free site strategy has nothing to do with content at all and fact you are making most of your sales from index / main pages just proves it... content is to fill up link-list you're submitting to, that's why you want to use less amount of pictures allowed...

If that's the case, then what do you care if you have 20, 24, 30, 60, 1000 pics on your gallery pages.

I've never begged for submissions & I rarely kiss the submitters ass - especially when they think their site is my content. I send out a lot traffic on a daily basis & I have to have some rule in place as far as what I list. Don't like the rules, don't submit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexvilly

...personally, going to stop submitting to every link-list from my database who copy this rule. for free sites submitters, it's not about traffic you receive from this or that link-list after all > it's about link-backs to get your free site indexed in SearchEngines in the end of the day. some forget this or haven't realised.

That really is a Catch 22 - most of the big traffic sending Link Lists are the ones that have the most SE "power" (for lack of a better word) So by not submitting to the big link lists, your chances of getting decent (if any) SE listings is very slim.

docholly · 2006-08-18, 10:57 AM

Let me just go on record as saying..i'm am so totally blown away by the number of people freaking out over 4 more pictures.. and a little extra cheap ass bandwidth..

Change, like surfer's dicks, is hard.

Simon · 2006-08-18, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docholly

Change, like surfer's dicks, is hard.

As is said, from your lips to God's ear.

Wait...

Yeah, that was pornographic and blasphemous at the same time.

Damn.

MrYum · 2006-08-18, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon

As is said, from your lips to God's ear.

Wait...

Yeah, that was pornographic and blasphemous at the same time.

Damn.

Yea...it was...

Well done!

So Greenie...did ya think these relatively innocuous changes would cause such a furor??? lol

Useless · 2006-08-18, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexvilly

personally, going to stop submitting to every link-list from my database who copy this rule. for free sites submitters, it's not about traffic you receive from this or that link-list after all > it's about link-backs to get your free site indexed in SearchEngines in the end of the day. some forget this or haven't realised.

Holy Shit! A statement like that makes me WANT to adopt GG's new rules. Goddamn - if it would keep IGNORANT INBRED COCKSUCKERS LIKE YOU from ever submitting to me, it may be very well worth it.

Who the fuck do you think feels threatened by that? Do you think there are link list owners sitting at home wetting their panties because a few free site submitters don't like a couple of rules. WAKE THE FUCK UP! Free site submitters have never like the rules.

Christ, I hate Comic Sans, but you don't see me threatening to boycott LOR's FREE FUCKING TRAFFIC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Jimmy Norton

RAMOOOOME! SHOVE SEXVILLY BACK INTO HIS MOTHER'S CUNT SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO READ HIS FUCKING POSTS!

bluemoney · 2006-08-18, 10:37 AM

Leave it to some porn slingin

webmasters to overcomplicate and over think, a few uncomplicated simple rules. "Y'all er killin me"

PS. I know, I'm a "Fargin Icehole"

Greenguy · 2006-08-18, 01:31 PM

I think I know why Sexvilly is so upset with Link Lists

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexvilly

....got my email xxxchances.com banned in the beginning of my Carrier for copying ads from other free sites. I learned the lesson, built more that 700+ freesites of my own, and appealed 3 times but no reply followed. can you take care of this GreenGuy?

Honestly, I'm waiting to hear back form the webmaster that you copied the ads from before I remove you.

emmanuelle · 2006-08-18, 01:44 PM

Something that has not been covered in this (exhaustive) thread:

Very few sponsors offer downloadable content due either to 2275 issues, or licence controls. Many of the ones that do, seem to offer tiny 640x40- either screen caps, or with the idea that they are making life easier for submitters.

Personally, I am hoping that these changes reflect positively on smaller programs (such as ours

) who seem to be more flexible with their affiliates, and often produce their own content and so have no licencing issues to worry about.

Sexvilly · 2006-08-18, 01:50 PM

no Greenie, not upset with link-lists at all... upset with your new rule as some might follow... and would like to hear explanation of +4 pictures rule which no one asked.

freesites with COPIED Ads been removed long ago, I already answered for this of my mistakes and couple others on this board.

Greenguy · 2006-08-18, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexvilly

...upset with your new rule as some might follow... and would like to hear explanation of +4 pictures rule which no one asked...

I've explained it 4 times already - if I make one thing bigger, then they all have to be bigger - site size, pics size, number of pics, length of movies (which was too long under the old rules but fits nicely now)

Jim · 2006-08-18, 02:47 PM

Why the fuck does it matter what one person decides to do to his own private site? I think it has been quite a few years that Greenie has had to go out and beg for people to submit to link-o-rama. So, the answer for everyone pissing and moaning about rule changes is simple, submit someplace else. Even if it is a 20% increase of free porn that will be the downfall of this business

There are plenty of new linklists everyday that really want sites with only 20 pictures. Use them and worry about your own sites. I have never understood the thinking behind anyone believing they were due an explanation about someone else's site's rules.

We used to get a lot of that on GreenguyandJim as well. Until people realized that discussing business actually made you more money that wondering who would hit Lindsey Lohan.

bluemoney · 2006-08-18, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

. . . . wondering who would hit Lindsey Lohan.

For the record, I would hit Lindsey Lohan over and over and twice on Sunday.
OOPS! Scoot over Simon I'm going to hell with you.

MrYum · 2006-08-18, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluemoney

For the record, I would hit Lindsey Lohan over and over and twice on Sunday.
OOPS! Scoot over Simon I'm going to hell with you.

Make that a threeso..... oh wait! Nevermind...that could be mis-interpreted

spookyx · 2006-08-19, 07:10 AM

Well, just my 2 cents. I like the larger pic/24 pic rule. 10 pics always seemed kinda bare to me

hmmm wonder if we should make our hosted freesites 24 pics? feedback everyone?

2006-08-17, 02:24 PM	#1
Sexvilly They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: www.sexvilly.com Posts: 140	interesting, I would even adjust my freesites pictures to 1200 rule if submitting to link-o-rama as with todays resolution these pictures will look just about the same as 550-345 looked yesterday, but I don't understand why more total pics? __________________ I sell Blog Posts With Your Link - $5 Per Lifetime Link

2006-08-17, 03:01 PM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Carrie - stop with the 20% angle - the only other increase would have been 10% & like I said, 11 pics per gallery is just silly. No one builds galleries with 11 pics (and if you do, please show me the template & I pray the 11th one is labeled "BONUS PIC!") Jay's rules have been "You site must have at least 40 pics" for a long time - HOLY SHIT! That's a 100% increase over my old rules & 67% more than now (I think - my math sucks) PK? "A combination of thirty (30) free pics..." AAAAHHHHH! That's 25% more than mine!!!!! I was reading thru a lot of other Link List's rules yesterday & today, and while I was scratching my head as to why so many have copied mine (some word for word) I also realized that some of them don't say they have a minimum pic requirement (so I guess 2 is ok - or 4, which would be a 100% increase from 2) Some say they will reject the sites if the pics are too small, but they don't tell you what they consider "too small". At lease I'm now telling everyone what's what Also, just a general thought...no one else has mentioned anything that's NOT on the rules page.... __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-08-17, 03:38 PM	#4
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	9 pics in a row? 80 for the width of the thumbs? __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-08-17, 04:38 PM	#6
CrazySy There are no stupid questions, just stupid people! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ME,USA Posts: 1,393	UW, thanks for compliment What I don't get is as to why some people think they will be giving more free porn away? Does the rule say 4 extra hardcore images? NO, it does not. Simply add 4 more teaser images of the model I have built sites with 30 images yet I gave away less than some sites with 20. It's not the quantity of the content, it's how you choose it. I think majority of submitters don't like that just because of the fact some of their sponsors don't offer more than 20 per set. Just my 2 cents Now I better get my sorry ass back to work __________________ I Build Freesites - List of Active Link Lists

2006-08-17, 08:14 PM	#8
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	GG- A clarification please. You say 24 pic minimum (12 per gallery) BUT what if I decided I wanted to create a freesite with 30 pics in 3 galleries? I'd be complying with the 24 pic minimum rule and the third page would give me another chance to put two more ads in front of the surfer. When I first started making free sites I often made 3 gallery free sites because I thought it would be a good way to do a bit more advertising. I stopped when the rules started getting restrictive but this has reminded me of it. __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2006-08-17, 10:11 PM	#9
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	grandmascrotum - it's still 12 per gallery page - if that part of the rule is not in there, I'd get sites with 4 pages & 6 pics on each (found that out a long time ago) __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-08-18, 10:19 AM	#11
Sexvilly They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: www.sexvilly.com Posts: 140	in case my question went unnoticed - what point stand behind +4 pictures rule? I see this: attract bookmarkers from other link-lists offering them more free porn than other lists who haven't yet got this rule? but that's how tgp started it's destruction awhile ago, why follow this? everybody is making money now, why change anything? don't get the point. (talking as free site submitter) somebody mentioned in the thread before, better quality content = more sales for free site submitter. free site strategy has nothing to do with content at all and fact you are making most of your sales from index / main pages just proves it... content is to fill up link-list you're submitting to, that's why you want to use less amount of pictures allowed. personally, going to stop submitting to every link-list from my database who copy this rule. for free sites submitters, it's not about traffic you receive from this or that link-list after all > it's about link-backs to get your free site indexed in SearchEngines in the end of the day. some forget this or haven't realised. __________________ I sell Blog Posts With Your Link - $5 Per Lifetime Link

2006-08-18, 10:57 AM	#13
docholly Nothing funnier than the ridiculous faces you people make mid-coitus Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sin-City USA Posts: 4,973	Let me just go on record as saying..i'm am so totally blown away by the number of people freaking out over 4 more pictures.. and a little extra cheap ass bandwidth.. Change, like surfer's dicks, is hard. __________________ Support Indie Porn Sites OMGoddess You know you need some Bling!!

2006-08-18, 10:37 AM	#17
bluemoney Shimmering Silver Head Of Wisdom Looking At Me! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chronic Town Posts: 2,024	Leave it to some porn slingin webmasters to overcomplicate and over think, a few uncomplicated simple rules. "Y'all er killin me" PS. I know, I'm a "Fargin Icehole" __________________ Milf Porn For The Masses

2006-08-18, 01:44 PM	#19
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	Something that has not been covered in this (exhaustive) thread: Very few sponsors offer downloadable content due either to 2275 issues, or licence controls. Many of the ones that do, seem to offer tiny 640x40- either screen caps, or with the idea that they are making life easier for submitters. Personally, I am hoping that these changes reflect positively on smaller programs (such as ours ) who seem to be more flexible with their affiliates, and often produce their own content and so have no licencing issues to worry about.

2006-08-18, 01:50 PM	#20
Sexvilly They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: www.sexvilly.com Posts: 140	no Greenie, not upset with link-lists at all... upset with your new rule as some might follow... and would like to hear explanation of +4 pictures rule which no one asked. freesites with COPIED Ads been removed long ago, I already answered for this of my mistakes and couple others on this board. __________________ I sell Blog Posts With Your Link - $5 Per Lifetime Link Last edited by Sexvilly; 2006-08-18 at 01:53 PM..

2006-08-18, 02:47 PM	#22
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Why the fuck does it matter what one person decides to do to his own private site? I think it has been quite a few years that Greenie has had to go out and beg for people to submit to link-o-rama. So, the answer for everyone pissing and moaning about rule changes is simple, submit someplace else. Even if it is a 20% increase of free porn that will be the downfall of this business There are plenty of new linklists everyday that really want sites with only 20 pictures. Use them and worry about your own sites. I have never understood the thinking behind anyone believing they were due an explanation about someone else's site's rules. We used to get a lot of that on GreenguyandJim as well. Until people realized that discussing business actually made you more money that wondering who would hit Lindsey Lohan.

2006-08-19, 07:10 AM	#25
spookyx Kodak Ghosts Run Amok Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hobbs End Posts: 1,718	Well, just my 2 cents. I like the larger pic/24 pic rule. 10 pics always seemed kinda bare to me hmmm wonder if we should make our hosted freesites 24 pics? feedback everyone?