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Old 2006-08-16, 08:44 PM   #1
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if you go to a grocery store and get a free sample and it tastes like shit are you going to buy some of it? hell no but if it tastes great you MIGHT buy some

if you see some free porn samples that don't get your crotch stiff or your panties wet are you gonna buy anything? probably not but if you see something that you would like to see more of you are gonna check it out more

alot of the "freeloaders" are just looking for the best quality, not neccesarily eating up all the bad content out there

surfers are on your sites to check out your samples, bad samples leads to quick click backs, if they think the sites being advertised are going to contain the same type of content as your samples they are not going to buy anything from you
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Old 2006-08-16, 08:58 PM   #2
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if you go to a grocery store and get a free sample and it tastes like shit are you going to buy some of it? hell no but if it tastes great you MIGHT buy some
And if you give alot of free sample every day, why would they need to buy it when they can just return to the grocery store every day and get some more free sample as they please!
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And if you give alot of free sample every day, why would they need to buy it when they can just return to the grocery store every day and get some more free sample as they please!
I used to manage a store (a candy store yum yum) where there was a set amount of time each day that we had to get out and 'sample' the passersby. Yes, we had a lot of people coming back just for the free stuff, but it DID make more people buy, too. Why else do you think they do it? It's all in the way you look at it.
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Old 2006-08-16, 09:06 PM   #4
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And if you give alot of free sample every day, why would they need to buy it when they can just return to the grocery store every day and get some more free sample as they please!
because you cannot live off of free samples alone, you will starve to death and as I stated too many people are already doing it and you can't control what they are doing, you might run the risk of being left behind so to say buy the competition

I am curious though, Bill if you are in here again, to hear more of your thoughts on the subject
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Old 2006-08-16, 09:21 PM   #5
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Both actually. I like to make my fs with the least amount of pictures as required and make them as small as possible.
Well, now that's 24 & 700x525

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...But Ive never submitted a site with pics less than 640 on the long side and I crop and optimize my images and thumbs by hand...
I have one free site with pics of yours listed (it has 30 pics with 15/page btw ) I was looking at the size of the pics & they are really strange. 640 x 399, 412, 373, 403. etc - why are you cropping these by hand? Regardless of my rules, if you have a batch of pics that are all 640x480, just run come compression software (thumbs Plus, CompuPic) on them if they are too big in file size. Why would you bother cropping out 50-80 pixels on one side?

...and while we're talking pics, 800x600 is a very popular size - auto-crop them (and any other 4:3 ratio pics bigger than that) all to 700x525 & you're all set!

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And if you give a lot of free sample every day, why would they need to buy it when they can just return to the grocery store every day and get some more free sample as they please!
I have 12,000 links listed - a vast majority are free sites, but let's say that 1/2 of them are free sites with pics & the other 1/2 are movie sites or pay - at 20 pics/site, that's 120,000 free pics. My grocery store gives away free samples all day long, but people still buy frozen burritos from time to time
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Old 2006-08-16, 09:29 PM   #6
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... but people still buy frozen burritos from time to time
I've heard of meat burritos, is this frozen type a way to prepare a cock for extra stimulation?

You know there was a depraved porn movie with a girl wrapped in a giant burrito that I would love to reference right now, but it seems that age is taking a toll on my old noggan.
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Old 2006-08-16, 09:39 PM   #7
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but it seems that age is taking a toll on my old noggan.
are you sure it isn't all those Xany bars?
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Old 2006-08-16, 09:29 PM   #8
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but people still buy frozen burritos from time to time
I like frozen burritos. It makes it easier to keep working
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Old 2006-08-16, 10:35 PM   #9
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I like frozen burritos. It makes it easier to keep working
I keep a stash of those suckers in the freezer at all times...they're tasty

I'm not wild about increasing site widths yet...there are still a good number of surfers at 800 wide. Most recent data I could find was about 20%, but that was from January of this year...so it's no doubt dropped further since that time. However, that's still more surfers than I want to make side scroll. In another 6 to 12 months, that will most likely change.

Bumping up pic sizes slightly though I think is a damn fine idea
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Old 2006-08-16, 10:42 PM   #10
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See, you list my sites on link-o-rama and porn movie links. I dont submit crappy content sites right? Yes Im an insecure little man.
Anyone can go ahead and replay to this. I decided that Im ok if you just say it to make me feel better.
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Old 2006-08-16, 10:47 PM   #11
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Anyone can go ahead and replay to this. I decided that Im ok if you just say it to make me feel better.
Lol!

What's the matter WarBot, not catching any fish?

I like the two freesites I've seen. And those new banners of yours are pretty nifty.
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are you sure it isn't all those Xany bars?
Actually I'm poor so I buy the generic, so they're not bars their actually ovals...but yes that could be what's doing it.

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You know there was a depraved porn movie with a girl wrapped in a giant burrito that I would love to reference right now, but it seems that age is taking a toll on my old noggan.
I just love responding to myself...

"(Aurora Snow) mentioned her stint as a 'human burrito' in one volume of Jim Powers' Perverted Stories."

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no changes for me, I alway use 30 pics per free site. Just have to check for the pic size......
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I have one free site with pics of yours listed (it has 30 pics with 15/page btw )
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I dont crop the larger images just the thumbs.

They came all wierd sized like that. Got em from david lace a looooong time ago (did he go out of business?).
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See, you list my sites on link-o-rama and porn movie links. I dont submit crappy content sites right? Yes Im an insecure little man.
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if you go to a grocery store and get a free sample and it tastes like shit are you going to buy some of it? hell no but if it tastes great you MIGHT buy some
Who do you think sell the most?

A sales guy that really know his product and give away free samples to give the customer a feel for the product but HE sells the product?

Or a guy that doesn't know his product, but give away free samples and hope that the product will sell itself?


EDIT: Clarified. Comparing apples to apples

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Old 2006-08-17, 04:01 PM   #17
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EDIT: Clarified. Comparing apples to apples
don't you mean burritos to burritos?

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Old 2006-08-17, 04:25 PM   #18
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OK, gotta have to throw in my newbie 2c into this new rule thingy, although probably noone gives a f**k

The picture size - well, I don't care much, my pix already applied with that b4 it came up. And I think that 1200 combined rule is better than saying 800 on the long side. I haven't seen a lot of 750x450 pix, but they are out there and that way they are accepted aswell.

I'm glad that you dropped that 800x600 rule, I mean my sites don't have any horizontal scrolling at 800x600, but I really think that's a kinda useless rule. I mean, who (besides Useless Warrior *lol*) really keeps his resolution at 800x600? Like 95% of my visitors have a 1024x768 resolution or higher - for myself I'm running at 1280x1024 and I don't have any monster machine, just a decent computer with a 19" screen, which is nothing special imo.

Oh, and that extra 2 pix per gallery. Maybe it gets harder to find the content for your galleries now, as some sponsors don't give out much free content, but on the other hand it now makes more sense to use 2 different girls/scenes for one freesite, which I find more interesting anywayz. 10 pix per scene was not that great before.

Oh, and what about the file size? I mean I submitted to 9 different LL's so far, many of them I'd consider as "big players" - I haven't found a "max 100kb per pic" rule at any of them. I mean, it's my bandwidth, isn't it? Sure, a 500kb pic loading for 2 minutes is crap, but come on, almost everyone has a fast connection nowadays, so 200kb pics are no prob for most surfers.
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