Question for free site submitters (not LL owners)

[kitty_kate]

5 sites and 3 sales by now (started like two months ago).
My friends (much older in this biz) are telling me that summer sucks because the traffic decreases and so the sales, and I tend to belive them.

Anyway, we should keep working and submitting... on the web the money comes with a little delay

[Useless]

I know I'm excluded from this thread since I haven't submitted a free site in a very long time - but that's not because it isn't worth it - I'm simply not someone who could be labeled "productive".

I tend not help newer people anymore since, for whatever bizarre reason, I tend to create hostility. However, I'm going to give you some very solid business advice (and I believe Preacher would back me up on this). - Marry someone whose sole income pays the mortgage, two car payments, utilities, your broadband connection, etc. That way, the weekly check from CCBill for $50 will seem like icing on the cake. It will also help if your spouse has had a couple of psych courses so they'll be able to adequately understand and cope as you become increasingly introverted, socially anxious, and generally bitter at your lack of success while being unable to break free from that which causes you the most pain. Having a dog who can absorb a few kicks helps too.

[Tart]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

.....However, I'm going to give you some very solid business advice (and I believe Preacher would back me up on this). - Marry someone whose sole income pays the mortgage, two car payments, utilities, your broadband connection, etc. That way, the weekly check from CCBill for $50 will seem like icing on the cake. It will also help if your spouse has had a couple of psych courses so they'll be able to adequately understand and cope as you become increasingly introverted, socially anxious, and generally bitter at your lack of success while being unable to break free from that which causes you the most pain. Having a dog who can absorb a few kicks helps too.

Very good advice.. it's worked for me. Although I now make enough to pay for my own internet connection. And the dog kibble.

[ponygirl]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Marry someone whose sole income pays the mortgage, two car payments, utilities, your broadband connection, etc. That way, the weekly check from CCBill for $50 will seem like icing on the cake. It will also help if your spouse has had a couple of psych courses so they'll be able to adequately understand and cope as you become increasingly introverted, socially anxious, and generally bitter at your lack of success while being unable to break free from that which causes you the most pain. Having a dog who can absorb a few kicks helps too.

ok, I will back this up (except for the dog, I've got enough chaos in my life )

Warbot, don't get discouraged. I've been doing this for 2 yrs now (although I definitely don't submit every day) and it took me a year just to see regular cheques of any kind. I do freesites, hubs and have a little LL. It now pays for hosting, content, and groceries (I have 3 males in my house so that's not small potatoes lol).

Just get it in your head that YOU WILL NOT MAKE ANY MONEY for a while. I think that's what kills most newbies in this biz. If you have a year or 2 to build it up and keep working at it, YOU WILL MAKE MONEY. It's almost that simple. Build freesites, hubs, pages, get domains whenever you can afford it...keep making your little slice of the pie bigger and it will happen.

This last month has been terrible, for whatever reason (some people believe in summer slowdown, some don't), and one of my main sponsors tanked for me, so I've been spreading my traffic out a bit which doesn't help sales. But I'm optimistic and I know it will get better again.

My advice is to just keep going as long as you can before starving to death. And if it looks like you will, then get a part time job, eat lots of mr noodle, and keep going.

oh ya, and stay here...this is definitely THE place to be if you want to do anything in the freesite/LL biz.

[docholly]

I had a hard time on the poll.. cuz we (tart and I) go in cycles.. we submit a whole bunch then stop for sometimes MONTHS.. then realize our traffic has dried up to our hubs and then we submit...but this time we've made ourselves a promise of at least 2-3 subs per week..

If you want short term quick cash.. build galleries. which you should anyway.. from every free site you can get at least 1 gallery.

Free sites, as MML has drilled into us in OTB, are built for long term SE listings. 1 site can produce over its lifetime, more sales than 1 little short term gallery.

If you need an influx of really fast cash, get a web cam and shake your ass..

Of course UW gave you the best advice.. oh yeah and attend OTB.

[Kenny B!]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

and generally bitter

No not you!

[sue-fl]

Warbot you are getting frusted way too soon. I've been working hard at this for two years and just started seeing results over the past few months.

If you are depending on this for a living get a second job, till you've been at it for a few years

[BishopWeber]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Having a dog who can absorb a few kicks helps too.

This really works.

[Preacher]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

However, I'm going to give you some very solid business advice (and I believe Preacher would back me up on this). - Marry someone whose sole income pays the mortgage, two car payments, utilities, your broadband connection, etc. That way, the weekly check from CCBill for $50 will seem like icing on the cake. It will also help if your spouse has had a couple of psych courses so they'll be able to adequately understand and cope as you become increasingly introverted, socially anxious, and generally bitter at your lack of success while being unable to break free from that which causes you the most pain. Having a dog who can absorb a few kicks helps too.

I have a cat!

[WarBot]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

I know I'm excluded from this thread since I haven't submitted a free site in a very long time - but that's not because it isn't worth it - I'm simply not someone who could be labeled "productive".

I tend not help newer people anymore since, for whatever bizarre reason, I tend to create hostility. However, I'm going to give you some very solid business advice (and I believe Preacher would back me up on this). - Marry someone whose sole income pays the mortgage, two car payments, utilities, your broadband connection, etc. That way, the weekly check from CCBill for $50 will seem like icing on the cake. It will also help if your spouse has had a couple of psych courses so they'll be able to adequately understand and cope as you become increasingly introverted, socially anxious, and generally bitter at your lack of success while being unable to break free from that which causes you the most pain. Having a dog who can absorb a few kicks helps too.

Very sound advice This is why I read every single one of your posts lol