starting a tgp/mgp, need some questions answered.

BozenaXXX · 2006-09-06, 06:01 AM

Hi, I posted this in another forum, nobody answered these questions for me. So I was wondering if you fellas might be able to help me out.

I am going to be starting up my tgp/mgp within a couple weeks. And I never set out to just slap something together and hope for the best. I am really taking my time with this and I think I have most of the info I need to get it up and make it work. I just have a couple more questions to ask and then I will launch it and go from there.

Firstly the 2257 questions. I have noticed two things sites do. for a site like www.dansmovies.com or www.xxxpushers.com , they only show nudity for models whom they have 2257 compliant information on. As you can see with xxxpushers.com , their non-exclusive materials just show the faces of the models, and when you are forewarded to the site containing the actual stuff it is out of their hands at that point. I have seen hordes of other sites just have the 2257 brush off the shoulder technique, where they say that none of the models on the site were created by the proprietor of the actual tgp, but the content providers in which you are then forewarded to after you click on the thumb.

I guess my question is that if I were to show nude thumbnails on my tgp/mgp, would I have to have the 2257 info for each nude girl on MY site, or could I just say that the content provider has all the data, and don't bother me. And if I can do the latter, please foreward me some reference so I can be confident that it is okay.

Secondly, what are the negatives of having free high quality exclusive (I shot it) material on my website to entice traffic . Of course I would have to have all the 2257 jargon for her on the site... BUT I think it would be an out of the ordinary bonus (repeat visitors in mind). I understand the potential in extra bandwidth and the such, but what are your thoughts?

And while I am at it I heard from somebody that mgp/tgp sites are inherently illegal, due to the fact that the government supposedly says that one must first prove the age of the surfer before the content is given, and for a tgp/mgp, content is being given away for free. He said that the only way the gov will accept the proof is not by the "you must be 18 or older page" but by legitimate licence and credit information. I have heard a lot supporting either way and I would just like some peace of mind hearing your opinions on the topic.

Thanks to those who sloshed through this, I know it is long. I've got nothing but respect for those of you who have made it work, and I hope to accomplish the same for myself. Please discuss, email me, icq me whatever. Thanks!!!!!!

Greenguy · 2006-09-06, 07:43 AM

2257 - you really should ask a lawyer, because anything you hear on a board would be just the poster's opinion.

As far as the exclusive content, it'd really depend on how you displayed it. It might draw people in for repeat visits if it was featured in a way that enticed the surfer to want to see more (but then again, if they want to see more, you should send them to her site & get credit for the signup)

Odds are most of your repeat traffic will be based on the galleries that your listing & how much the surfer likes your lists.

DonPaul · 2006-09-06, 11:33 AM

Much of this depends on where you live, what laws your country have, where you're hosted etc..... so do like greenguy said, consult with a lawyer!

pinkeyedjim · 2006-09-07, 12:03 AM

The bottom line is, with the strictest interpretation of the law, you are supposed to have 2257 data for any pictures with "lascivious exhibition of genitals," or "real or simulated sexual contact".

I usually take this to mean no penis shots, no spread vagina, no sexual contact. Otherwise it'd be a good idea to get your 2257 data.

BozenaXXX · 2006-09-07, 12:47 AM

ok, thanks for the help so far!!

2006-09-06, 06:01 AM	#1
BozenaXXX Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3	starting a tgp/mgp, need some questions answered. Hi, I posted this in another forum, nobody answered these questions for me. So I was wondering if you fellas might be able to help me out. I am going to be starting up my tgp/mgp within a couple weeks. And I never set out to just slap something together and hope for the best. I am really taking my time with this and I think I have most of the info I need to get it up and make it work. I just have a couple more questions to ask and then I will launch it and go from there. Firstly the 2257 questions. I have noticed two things sites do. for a site like www.dansmovies.com or www.xxxpushers.com , they only show nudity for models whom they have 2257 compliant information on. As you can see with xxxpushers.com , their non-exclusive materials just show the faces of the models, and when you are forewarded to the site containing the actual stuff it is out of their hands at that point. I have seen hordes of other sites just have the 2257 brush off the shoulder technique, where they say that none of the models on the site were created by the proprietor of the actual tgp, but the content providers in which you are then forewarded to after you click on the thumb. I guess my question is that if I were to show nude thumbnails on my tgp/mgp, would I have to have the 2257 info for each nude girl on MY site, or could I just say that the content provider has all the data, and don't bother me. And if I can do the latter, please foreward me some reference so I can be confident that it is okay. Secondly, what are the negatives of having free high quality exclusive (I shot it) material on my website to entice traffic . Of course I would have to have all the 2257 jargon for her on the site... BUT I think it would be an out of the ordinary bonus (repeat visitors in mind). I understand the potential in extra bandwidth and the such, but what are your thoughts? And while I am at it I heard from somebody that mgp/tgp sites are inherently illegal, due to the fact that the government supposedly says that one must first prove the age of the surfer before the content is given, and for a tgp/mgp, content is being given away for free. He said that the only way the gov will accept the proof is not by the "you must be 18 or older page" but by legitimate licence and credit information. I have heard a lot supporting either way and I would just like some peace of mind hearing your opinions on the topic. Thanks to those who sloshed through this, I know it is long. I've got nothing but respect for those of you who have made it work, and I hope to accomplish the same for myself. Please discuss, email me, icq me whatever. Thanks!!!!!!

2006-09-06, 07:43 AM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	2257 - you really should ask a lawyer, because anything you hear on a board would be just the poster's opinion. As far as the exclusive content, it'd really depend on how you displayed it. It might draw people in for repeat visits if it was featured in a way that enticed the surfer to want to see more (but then again, if they want to see more, you should send them to her site & get credit for the signup) Odds are most of your repeat traffic will be based on the galleries that your listing & how much the surfer likes your lists. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-09-06, 11:33 AM	#3
DonPaul Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 106	Much of this depends on where you live, what laws your country have, where you're hosted etc..... so do like greenguy said, consult with a lawyer! __________________ Make $$$ with MassiveDollars.com! Want typein+SE traffic? Submit here

2006-09-07, 12:47 AM	#5
BozenaXXX Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3	ok, thanks for the help so far!! __________________

2006-09-07, 12:03 AM	#4
pinkeyedjim If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 36	The bottom line is, with the strictest interpretation of the law, you are supposed to have 2257 data for any pictures with "lascivious exhibition of genitals," or "real or simulated sexual contact". I usually take this to mean no penis shots, no spread vagina, no sexual contact. Otherwise it'd be a good idea to get your 2257 data.