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neterunner1987 · 2006-09-19, 08:06 PM

I noticed that most of the adult websites are hosted on linux using php. I assume the ease the directory security for the members part of it. I guess if I were to host on windows, their would have to be a 3rd party component installed on the web server to admin my group.. right?
The reason I as this, I am a vb.net developer.. so I am kinda stuck in windows platform and I am asked to do an adult web site. Do I go now and learn PHP and find adult friendly webhosting?
Any suggestions greatly appriciated.

thanks
netrunner1987

cd34 · 2006-09-19, 08:21 PM

If you are running a membership site, you need a piece of software called authentix from flicks.com, or need to run some other sort of authentication plugin.

However, if you're not running a membership site, you can protect directories in IIS using their challenge/response system that is built in -- or write your own session code.

There are adult sites out there that are running on Windows/IIS, and there are a few that run with Authentix. Both CCBill and Paycom will reluctantly support using Authentix.

juggernaut · 2006-09-19, 11:23 PM

I owned a server running 2003 and iis6. I never had an issue. Your users are stored in an SQL DB of which you as a vb.net developer should know how to right asp code that will allow a call back from a transaction from ccbill. There are plenty of sites out there using them. The only time I saw a need to make local user accounts on the box itself was when you are using a PPM (Pay per minute) system with windows streaming media server. You need a local account in order to really track the access and for how long. That's where your own plug in comes in.
As far as security I have never seen a problem. I used software called whoson.com. It tracks known website hacks and will automatically ban the ip or the range from IIS after a certain amount of attempts to "get or push" the file/files. IIS6 in it self is very secure. I'm sure websites from both platforms have been taken down or defaced. I would think more Linux boxes though being windows servers for websites and hosting companies are not the norm. Mostly due to price and myth of a bad OS. Don't let vb.net hold you back from doing work on pay sites and surly don't let a crappy reputation limit you.

Satan · 2006-09-19, 11:34 PM

Speaking as somebody who has both types of site and was originally trained in VB and ASP.Net ... In other words a year ago when I started in Adult web sites I was in the same boat as you...

Apache unix server and Php is a lot easier to learn and an awful lot less hassle than .net. Sorry if that rubs any Microsofties here up the wrong way but hey thats my opinion.

I can get a scripted site up and running in half a day that would take me close to a week in vb.net and I spent 3 years programming vb.net in a commercial environment. It took me a week to get to grips with PHP - its that much easier. The only problem with it is a little bit of hassle around a buggy striptags code but if you remove all instances of < and > explicitly from all inputs you will be css proof.

If I could ditch the three sites I wrote in the early days and move entirely to Unix/Apache/PHP then I would do it tomorrow.

DJilla · 2006-09-20, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satan

Apache unix server and Php is a lot easier to learn and an awful lot less hassle than .net. Sorry if that rubs any Microsofties here up the wrong way but hey thats my opinion.

I was/am in general a "microsoftie" and there is no question that you're 100% right.

Jim · 2006-09-20, 07:00 AM

Microsoft makes server software?

Satan · 2006-09-20, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Microsoft makes server software?

Nope Microsoft makes softer serveware....

2006-09-19, 08:06 PM	#1
neterunner1987 Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 6	Hosting Platform I noticed that most of the adult websites are hosted on linux using php. I assume the ease the directory security for the members part of it. I guess if I were to host on windows, their would have to be a 3rd party component installed on the web server to admin my group.. right? The reason I as this, I am a vb.net developer.. so I am kinda stuck in windows platform and I am asked to do an adult web site. Do I go now and learn PHP and find adult friendly webhosting? Any suggestions greatly appriciated. thanks netrunner1987 Last edited by neterunner1987; 2006-09-19 at 08:12 PM.. Reason: edit

2006-09-19, 08:21 PM	#2
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	If you are running a membership site, you need a piece of software called authentix from flicks.com, or need to run some other sort of authentication plugin. However, if you're not running a membership site, you can protect directories in IIS using their challenge/response system that is built in -- or write your own session code. There are adult sites out there that are running on Windows/IIS, and there are a few that run with Authentix. Both CCBill and Paycom will reluctantly support using Authentix. __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2006-09-19, 11:34 PM	#4
Satan If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 30	Speaking as somebody who has both types of site and was originally trained in VB and ASP.Net ... In other words a year ago when I started in Adult web sites I was in the same boat as you... Apache unix server and Php is a lot easier to learn and an awful lot less hassle than .net. Sorry if that rubs any Microsofties here up the wrong way but hey thats my opinion. I can get a scripted site up and running in half a day that would take me close to a week in vb.net and I spent 3 years programming vb.net in a commercial environment. It took me a week to get to grips with PHP - its that much easier. The only problem with it is a little bit of hassle around a buggy striptags code but if you remove all instances of < and > explicitly from all inputs you will be css proof. If I could ditch the three sites I wrote in the early days and move entirely to Unix/Apache/PHP then I would do it tomorrow. __________________ Satan

2006-09-19, 11:23 PM	#3
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	I owned a server running 2003 and iis6. I never had an issue. Your users are stored in an SQL DB of which you as a vb.net developer should know how to right asp code that will allow a call back from a transaction from ccbill. There are plenty of sites out there using them. The only time I saw a need to make local user accounts on the box itself was when you are using a PPM (Pay per minute) system with windows streaming media server. You need a local account in order to really track the access and for how long. That's where your own plug in comes in. As far as security I have never seen a problem. I used software called whoson.com. It tracks known website hacks and will automatically ban the ip or the range from IIS after a certain amount of attempts to "get or push" the file/files. IIS6 in it self is very secure. I'm sure websites from both platforms have been taken down or defaced. I would think more Linux boxes though being windows servers for websites and hosting companies are not the norm. Mostly due to price and myth of a bad OS. Don't let vb.net hold you back from doing work on pay sites and surly don't let a crappy reputation limit you.

2006-09-20, 07:00 AM	#6
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Microsoft makes server software?