What do you think about these?

[ponygirl]

Originally Posted by Simon

I'd like to live in a world where as long as there's a document somewhere attesting to the age and the consent of all parties in a scene, then it's fine to show them doing just about anything that's legal. Unfortunately we're very far from that world.

that's pretty much where I'm at too. I'm a woman, and I did see the clip. It was very graphic, pretty shocking, and it did disturb me, but I've seen much more violent and disturbing scenes in recent movies, scenes that almost made me physically ill. If it weren't for the sick percentage of people that would think it's real, or acceptable to act out without consent, I'm all for whatever 2 adults do etc...

Unfortunately, with the way society is today I am not anywhere near morally comfortable with promoting this kind of material, or even having it produced. If things were different, I'd probably feel differently, but right now the way things are, I don't think it's acceptable.

I just can't understand how they can make movies (and games) with the level of graphic psychological and physical violence that I've seen lately and then turn around and say this is worse. At best, that's hypocritical, at worst it's desensitizing a whole generation to really extreme violent behavour and that really concerns me.