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Old 2006-12-01, 05:58 PM   #1
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Google Update Starts Tonight

My private indicators for predicting an update are all lined up right now for a major upheaval in Google this weekend - I would expect to see some very happy as well as some very unhappy people come Monday
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Old 2006-12-01, 09:45 PM   #2
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My private indicators for predicting an update are all lined up right now for a major upheaval in Google this weekend - I would expect to see some very happy as well as some very unhappy people come Monday
Awesome news...thanks Linkster

I look at it this way...they can't make things any worse here...the only way to go is UP
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Old 2006-12-01, 10:57 PM   #3
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Awesome news...thanks Linkster

I look at it this way...they can't make things any worse here...the only way to go is UP
I totally agree with that statement Mr. Yum!!!

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Old 2006-12-02, 02:32 AM   #4
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My private indicators for predicting an update are all lined up right now for a major upheaval in Google this weekend - I would expect to see some very happy as well as some very unhappy people come Monday
For me, that's like saying I'll be unhappy if I don't win the lottery
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Old 2006-12-02, 06:15 AM   #5
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Yep .. I see some movement .. I think with this update I'll be from the unhappy people ..
From what I see I think and some big quality sites will see some big drops in the SERPs
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Old 2006-12-02, 08:33 AM   #6
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I don't see anything happening yet
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Old 2006-12-02, 09:52 AM   #7
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Xallow - Im seeing massive changes - but I dont think its propagated everywhere yet
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Old 2006-12-02, 11:21 AM   #8
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Linkster I love it when you whisper things like that in my ear
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Old 2006-12-02, 12:36 PM   #9
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Hey Linkster, I agree with you that Google needs to re-dance again soon. About 3 days ago we noticed that we'd gotten back to top positions for around 10 more terms that had gone away during the last dance of a few weeks ago. I haven't seen any big changes in the last 2 days or so though. Anybody seeing anything today?
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Old 2006-12-02, 01:43 PM   #10
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I see one change I'm happy with. My link list finally made it to the first page of serps for one of my target kw phrases.
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Old 2006-12-02, 01:58 PM   #11
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Hey Linkster...make me happy...just WHERE are you looking
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Old 2006-12-03, 11:31 AM   #12
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My private indicators for predicting an update are all lined up right now for a major upheaval in Google this weekend - I would expect to see some very happy as well as some very unhappy people come Monday
Hey Linkster,

Not saying you are wrong by any stretch of the imagination...

I've read several articles, I don't remember who wrote them - they are just a vague memory, that basically stated that Google is moving away from "updates" and that the SERPS are more or less in a constant state of flux. Supposedly, Matt Cutts started using the term "Data Push" instead of "Update" to reflect the new reality. If there is any truth to this I have no idea. I'm just wondering what you think about it?
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Old 2006-12-03, 01:23 PM   #13
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I suppose that is a good new "catch phrase" - and in a way you are absolutely correct - they have gone away from the every three month massive updates that everyone dreaded - and gone to these data changes - they do "update" just about every day now with another catch phrase "freshness"
But occasionally they do a larger change that includes algo changes - happens right now about every 2-3 weeks
It used to be that an update was marked/understood by a change in the number of backlinks yahoo.com had acording to googles link: tool - and the disparity across three datacenters www1,2 and 3
Of course when Google decided to thwart some SEOs by changing the link: command to only show a small representative sample of backlinks this indicator went out the window About the same time they stopped doing the every three month updates as well

The indicators I use are the number of SERP results for some specific single word searches, some ratios of certain domain TLDs appearance in the top 100 SERPs and a few other tools that I really dont like to talk about The first one is a really good indicator if you see a major change - its been right on the money about 85% of the time - especially when you have swings from 300 mill results to 29 mill results in one day - and 585 mill results the next day - pretty good indicator of something up if you know the history of the SERPs results

The filter changes are what I watch for primarily as they are really the biggest effect on the standing of sites for me - and how much emphasis they place on their interpretation of page content compared to linking - which seems to be the biggest two variables in the algo right now - the filters are fun to watch to see what they allow and what gets left behind
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Old 2006-12-03, 01:26 PM   #14
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I suppose I should have mentioned that most of the effects I am seeing are still very much in flux - and have been for two days - although it looks like right now they are putting an entirely new database online but not propagating very fast
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Hey Linkster, thanks for the information, even if some of it was vague... still a man of mystery tho...
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Old 2006-12-04, 09:25 AM   #16
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Linkster,

My primary domain traffic from Google has DOUBLED since Friday...many of my keyword phrases that disappeared a few weeks ago have returned...with many first page listings...

I had my doubts, but now now...
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My primary domain traffic from Google has DOUBLED since Friday...many of my keyword phrases that disappeared a few weeks ago have returned...with many first page listings...

I had my doubts, but now now...
Nice! Congrats Pusher
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Old 2006-12-04, 10:07 AM   #18
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I suppose that is a good new "catch phrase" - ...
I like "data push" because it's more accurate, as my listings keep getting pushed down
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Old 2006-12-04, 03:30 PM   #19
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My primary domain traffic from Google has DOUBLED since Friday...many of my keyword phrases that disappeared a few weeks ago have returned...with many first page listings...

I had my doubts, but now now...
My google traffic went up three fold! I got back more than a few keyword phrases on page one that I was loath to fight for again, and picked up more than a few new ones as well!

I bow down to you too Linkster...
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I'm a happy man, got a couple of keywords back and getting a lot of German google traffic today for some reason.
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Old 2006-12-09, 07:58 PM   #21
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google hates me lol so either way i am fucked maybe this time i come out ok it would be nice if they finally delte that fucking dead parked creampie site from the top ten for creampie and let me in....wtf google lol
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