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[DJilla]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

I know if I was a link list owner I'd cut all communications with you in about 3 minutes after reading this post.

There are much better ways to deal with the issue.

I'm sorry you feel this way and I understand completely where you're coming from. I anticipated certain blacklash warranted or not. I've done a lot of board research and I've seen both sides of this matter and won't argue with your inference that "better ways to deal with this" means the conventional ones of begging and doing things quietly without creating a fuss and asking "please take me off the list" and not calling the secret WM that banned that domain a coward and piece of crap. I get that and I could've done that, you're right. I have even gently been warned "relax", no big deal, etc. But, I think you miss my personal point.

IMHO, a person whom I do not know has caused me to loose potential income, attacked a reputation, casued me to waste time which to me is money, and has done so in secret with a system that never notified me, gave me chance to respond, or offers any way for proper review other than to the webmaster that did it to begin with.

The principle is that I would never allow such a thing to occur in front of me or by someone who was affecting my business in a similar way in the real world. How can I possibly accept this in the virtual? I can not accept someone's hostile actions and then turn around to that WM and say please help me. I physically can't do it. Maybe you are a better person. If I interfere with someone's money and rep then I should expect some repurcussions. Its just that simple.

I'm thinking that maybe you avoided some of the very real deficiencies I pointed out regarding this particular BL system and how it works in favor of not liking my attitude. I'm sorry for that. Its not a matter of KA... its a matter of right and wrong.

I would hope that some people can relate to my point of view and are equally annoyed at the arbitrary administration of this list to be fair and accountable. It doesn't make a difference if you can get off by asking nicely when you shouldn't be on there to begin with.

I'll take it that your post is coming down on the side of not wanting to do biz with me because of my manner. That's unfortunate and saddens me because again I'll admit my attitude can get real bad when teased but only when I'm provoked first. My attitude shouldn't make a hill of beans in this debate. I think it should be about the business points I made.

[Useless]

First, let me say that you should have been relieved that ONE link list blacklisted you due to the use of vid caps and they never bothered to mention that the domain registrant name of your submission email address is different from your triplexxx.info domain. Most link lists would blacklist you for bad whois - and never tell you.

Originally Posted by DJilla

...and won't argue with your inference that "better ways to deal with this" means the conventional ones of begging and doing things quietly without creating a fuss and asking "please take me off the list" and not calling the secret WM that banned that domain a coward and piece of crap.

Requesting to be removed from that blacklist does not require begging or lowering oneself. One merely needs to acknowledge that they made a mistake and now realize what they did wrong. One doesn't even have to come to the board to be removed. No one esle even has to know.

Originally Posted by DJilla

IMHO, a person whom I do not know has caused me to loose potential income, attacked a reputation, casued me to waste time which to me is money, and has done so in secret with a system that never notified me, gave me chance to respond, or offers any way for proper review other than to the webmaster that did it to begin with.

You don't even know how long you've been on that black list. How much attention are you really paying to your business?

Originally Posted by DJilla

I can not accept someone's hostile actions and then turn around to that WM and say please help me. I physically can't do it. Maybe you are a better person. If I interfere with someone's money and rep then I should expect some repurcussions. Its just that simple.

Hostile actions? YOU THREATENED TO "BITCH SLAP" THAT REVIEWER!!! I've said a lot of rotten things to people on this board, but even I don't threaten physical violence. In my worst melt downs here - and I've had a bunch - I never told anyone that I'd bring physically harm to them.

Originally Posted by DJilla

My attitude shouldn't make a hill of beans in this debate. I think it should be about the business points I made.

You bitched in the LOR thread, then went on to start two other threads over a minor issue. Everyone else who discovers that one of their domains is on that blacklist simple appeals it - they don't lose their mind, or this case, MINDS - since you seem to have a partner.

You can't "lawyer up" against Useful Scripts for inactively defaming you and harming your business while actively and publicly making libelous statements about theirs.

I can't even imagine how you'd react if all of the link lists owners reading this right now publicly admitted that they are heading over to their admin to blacklist you for being an ass.

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by DJilla

IMHO, a person whom I do not know has caused me to loose potential income, attacked a reputation, casued me to waste time which to me is money

Isn't threateding to sue someone on a public board over a misunderstanding wasting your time and damaging your own reputation?

I was on the BL once. It took a very short period of time to be removed. I did not beg. I did not keep it quite. I did not threated to sue. There's an infinate amount of room between those approaches and that is where I prefer to do business.

Any way. I wish you luck.

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

Isn't threateding to sue someone on a public board over a misunderstanding wasting your time and damaging your own reputation?

I was on the BL once. It took a very short period of time to be removed. I did not beg. I did not keep it quite. I did not threated to sue. There's an infinate amount of room between those approaches and that is where I prefer to do business.

Any way. I wish you luck.

Your right! And that's exactly what I accomplished. I gave everybody the impression that I'm an ass and I wasted the better part of two days. Now, today I've been furious at myself and wasted today too. AND you weren't the first person to tell me that. Just be cool! I was told. Its not a big deal, relax. I didn't really understand the context of this BL. I thought it was a much bigger deal. I hadn't eaten, I was annoyed, blood pressure was crazy and then I just loose it.

But here's the other part I'll confess. Even the word blacklist makes me see red because I know how harmful that can be and to me it was just someone attacking me and I didn't have a rational thought process. I kinda come from a rough and tumble side of the tracks and well, you know you can read between the lines. Its like my reptilian brain takes over and I act like an ignoramus that no one can deal with. This is wholly inappropriate in general I know this, but particularly damaging in an online community where people don't care about your personality problems. I'm very ashamed that this has happened here.

My biggest mistake was not having the confidence that maybe I had built some capital at this board and people would be willing to help me. Its not that I ignored this possibility, my brain never got there really. It just jumped over the thought altogether in favor of fight. I'm so sorry. Please forgive me. If there is an adequate pennance, I will pay it.