LL owners, are you on my blacklist :)

[Samoseks]

Is this a bad dream? I know that my English is bad, but is he really so bad that I don't see how insulting my tread is??? Let's get something straight. I am truly sorry if I insult you guys and I apologize for that. But, to be honest, I still don't see what is wrong with my post. Word "blacklist"? That's supposed to be a joke. I put smilie every time I mention that word. I used that word because that's every free site submitter's nightmare. I just wanted to attract your attention. And I did - in worst possible way. I guess I'm stupid (or naive). Maybe my joke was bad but is that a reason for wich-hunt? I was just wondering why few dosent of my FS's are good enough for LOR and Penisbot and NONE of them aren't good for Hoes and Debauchery (for example). I came here for help and advice.
Some of you said that my FS's are full of blind links. Is it so hard to say: "Samoseks, "this" and "that" is blind link. That's the reason why your site wasn't accepted". Two of four sites from my first post are listed on major LL, including LOR and Penisbot ( http://www.sexy-hot-teens.com/fs/24/sex-parties1 and
http://www.free-porn-for-you.com/3/free-big-boobs1).
I start this tread to hear your opinion, not to undervalue any of these LL or their owners. I didn't mention very important thing, and that is my big mistake, I admit that. I believe that none of these LL's probably never listed any of my sites. I'm sorry if you understand that I'm listed and didn't get any visitors from them.
Once again I apology to everyone who felt insulted with my post.

[Samoseks]

Originally Posted by XPorn

Samoseks...I assume your sites were not accepted at mine..and some others.....no way getting listed would send you nothing.....XPorn

I never said that all these LL list my sites. I don't know which one have big backlog and whick one is dead. That's why I came here to ask. So far that looks like my biggest mistake

Originally Posted by KG Gary

15 hits could still yield a sign up, and it doesn't cost you anything, so if you're getting listed regularly and there's no other issues why not keep on supporting the people sending you those free 15 visitors? Todays small link list could be tomorrow's big link list, and loyalty goes a long long way. Seems like this blacklist thing isn't the best idea, even if you're half-joking.

First I want to thank you for your friendly approach. I agree that 15 hits is much better than nothing.
I decide to make my submission list smaller because I spend to much time collecting and checking recips. Sometimes one set of promo pics fit to one category but another set fit to different category. I realize that I will have more visitors if I submit 100 sites to 30 biggest LL than submitting 30 sites to 100 LL's.

Originally Posted by Preacher

You aren't getting listed because you're links are blind, at least from what I can tell after two clicks of the first freesite you listed. In fact you may have a recip on there, I can't locate that first site on his list.

Could you please be more specific?

Originally Posted by MrYum

Some of the others send great traffic, and are simply behind on reviews. If you hadn't been a dick with this thread, I'd probably be more willing to tell you which ones those are.

I'm sorry. I think you have wrong impression about me, but that is my fault.

[Samoseks]

Originally Posted by Greenie

But it's really bad to post a personal blacklist that is based solely on your opinion in public. Unless you really got screwed over by a LL for one reason or another, there's no need to bash them because you didn't get listed or the traffic was not what you expected it to be.

I have another list with LL who send me just few hits. I and I don't want to go public with that list. I was thinking that LL in my first post are dead (so no one care) or very big (in that case my opinion is irrelevant). I was asking you guys to tell me whick one is dead and which one is big. As simple as that. Obviously I was misunderstanded

Originally Posted by Bill

He's just dumb enough to say it out loud.

Unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Jel

No point saying I or others sent him no traffic if he isn't even listed. I've never been listed at Persian Kitty, does that mean she sends no traffic?

Unfortunately I was never listed on your site but it's also sad that i didn't receive any declination mail with short explanation. It seams that from yesterday I won't be listed on your site no matter what I do.

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Using the term black list is what creates the ire in this thread. That idiotic attempt at a smiley in the thread title doesn't help either.

In my interpretation everything sounds totally different. I'm sorry if my bad English make all this problems.

Originally Posted by Flex

But if they didn't say it I think the time it took you to create this name, post this message, by some domains, pay for hosting, time spent building the sites, link trading, gaining contacts, WAS TOTALLY WORTH LOSING JUST FOR THIS LAUGH

At least something good from me

[Samoseks]

Sorry for HUGE reply but your opinion is very important to me and I want to make everything clear. Best regards.

[ponygirl]

Samoseks, I think (hope) you learned something here

about your sites - here's a little tip on blind links:

"REAL SOCCER FANS IN DIRTY HARDCORE MATCHES!
CHOOSE YOUR FAVORITE TEAM"
that is blind because the surfer has no idea that he is going to a pay site, that it's even a porn site. In my mind, you could be sending them to a bookie, for all that link says.

the banner at the bottom "SCORE YOUR GOAL" - same thing. Where does that link go? Surfer has no idea till he clicks it.

"THE ONLY PLACE TO SEE GENUINE PORNO - FOOTBALL CULTURE AT IT'S BEST: UK SOCCER BABES" - ok, I wouldn't consider this one blind, it's the only non-blind link on the entire site.

A link has to let the surfer know a) that he's leaving your site and b) where he's going to end up.
think "SCORE YOUR GOAL at UK SOCCER BABES" and you'll be on the right track.

build some good sites, stay under the radar and let some time pass.

[pornhitzman]

http://www.pornhitz.com is running smooth and nearly all of those other lls on that "blacklist" are good.

[Samoseks]

Originally Posted by Greenie

There's never a way for me to not come off like an ass when I post something like this, but you might want to look into promoting sites to people that speak your native language until your English skills are just a tad bit better.

I already do that. Only few percent of people in my country have credit card. They pay by sending SMS from they mobile phones. Last year I have over 700 signups but I earned only 250 dollars (yes, I need almost 3 signups for 1$). I know that english is my weak point and will start taking english lessons next week.

Originally Posted by ponygirl

Samoseks, I think (hope) you learned something here
about your sites - here's a little tip on blind links:
"REAL SOCCER FANS IN DIRTY HARDCORE MATCHES!
CHOOSE YOUR FAVORITE TEAM"
that is blind because the surfer has no idea that he is going to a pay site, that it's even a porn site. In my mind, you could be sending them to a bookie, for all that link says.
the banner at the bottom "SCORE YOUR GOAL" - same thing. Where does that link go? Surfer has no idea till he clicks it.
"THE ONLY PLACE TO SEE GENUINE PORNO - FOOTBALL CULTURE AT IT'S BEST: UK SOCCER BABES" - ok, I wouldn't consider this one blind, it's the only non-blind link on the entire site.
A link has to let the surfer know a) that he's leaving your site and b) where he's going to end up.
think "SCORE YOUR GOAL at UK SOCCER BABES" and you'll be on the right track.
build some good sites, stay under the radar and let some time pass.

Thank you Ponygirl. VERY useful tips. I though that only banners with nudity (without sponsors name on it) or with "click here to enter" or "more free porn" are blind links. I'll be more careful next time.
And yes, I learn something today. I'm just not sure will I survive this lesson I'm afraid that many people here put big red X on my nick in their bookmarks

[MrYum]

I think it was the general tone of the original post that pushed my buttons. But, it's been a bitch of a past couple days...so perhaps those buttons are a bit more easily pushed than usual.

In any case, Samoseks...I can understand one opening their mouth and inserting both feet. I've certainly done so more times than I care to remember.

From your follow up posts, it's pretty clear that your intentions don't coincide with how the post was interpreted by some of us.

So, no worries here man

On the subject of blind links...here's an excellent thread on the subject...

Blind Links and How to Avoid Them

Once you get your english skills tightened up a little and take care of the blind links, you should get listed in a lot more places. Some of the link sites on your list send great traffic.

Added: Forgot to mention... debauchery is way behind on reviews, but also well worth waiting for the listing