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Old 2007-02-26, 07:52 PM   #1
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imo a free site is just another tool to get traffic, fancy recips and other facny things dont get you more traffic or clicks to tours, if you wanna impress reviewers and non buying surfers then thats fine with me

I'd try new ads or sales pitches to get more clicks throughs than the fancy stuff

I dont build many free sites much more as I am heading in another direction but I will always build them for the long term traffic and the trickles of sales you get
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Old 2007-02-26, 09:35 PM   #2
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imo a free site is just another tool to get traffic, fancy recips and other facny things dont get you more traffic or clicks to tours, if you wanna impress reviewers and non buying surfers then thats fine with me

I'd try new ads or sales pitches to get more clicks throughs than the fancy stuff

I dont build many free sites much more as I am heading in another direction but I will always build them for the long term traffic and the trickles of sales you get
All good points

Another reason to keep things relatively simple, is speaking for myself anyway...I don't have the extra time to scan heavy code, looking for nefarious shit. If it's all html, it's much easier to run through it quickly and know it's clean.

It's very easy to fall into the trap of spending lots of time making free sites pretty, when really the goal is surfers, you want to either to make the sale quickly or route them through to your internal pages. Once inside, sure...dazzle em with your technical skills (not sure that'll have much effect on the ol johnson though ).

But, the primary goal of free sites is a pretty simple concept...traffic
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Old 2007-02-26, 09:42 PM   #3
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imo a free site is just another tool to get traffic, fancy recips and other facny things dont get you more traffic or clicks to tours, if you wanna impress reviewers and non buying surfers then thats fine with me

I'd try new ads or sales pitches to get more clicks throughs than the fancy stuff
Exactly

Surfers are not going to our sites for the awesome graphics, or because of how cool the movies load. They come for the free porn looking for a free jack off. Simple easy to navigate links that offer some free porn, but trying to get them to whip out the CC for the good stuff. At least thats how I've always seen my job.
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Old 2007-02-27, 06:18 AM   #4
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...Surfers are not going to our sites for the awesome graphics, or because of how cool the movies load. They come for the free porn looking for a free jack off...
Which is why streamable video is preferable than download-to-play clips...
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Old 2007-02-27, 08:01 AM   #5
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To respond to your example - first is that you really dont need java to imbed streamable flash movies - and it would just open a door that we dont want opened - same reason we got rid of the counters that used java when they started adding stuff to D/L to the surfers computers in the java code - but like I said there are very easy ways to have flv's play without the use of java
Second - you are assuming that most surfers will have flash 6.0 or later already installed which is not a good assumption - and with the amount of blockers out there that will block installations on the fly - you will be setting off the Norton that most unknowing surfers use - the two problems there are that the LL then gets a mad surfer thinking we are trying to do something to their computer, and second you dont get all of the views that you want from your approach

Overall - Im all for innovation - however - think about the tons of surfers that dont have the knowledge to configure their computers - they account for a large amount of traffic

To also go along with some other posts - try to keep your traffic from free sites as simple as possible - you only have 6 seconds max to impress someone - and Im afraid graphics wont do that for someone on 56k which still accounts for over half the surfers

The reason LL owners try to point you to keeping things within their rules is that we are selling a specific product - if you think that your approach would be a better way to do things - or even the other guy that wanted to try a different graphical approach - those are worthwhile goals to explore - but you would also have to set up link lists for your own sites to try them out on and prove the concept
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