Cookie Question

[tickler]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Actually, what tickler brought up isn't a bash on CCBill - they tools/options are there to set things up properly. It's more of a bash at the uneducated program owners that throw multiple sites on the same sub-account.

emmanuelle:
Just to clarify what Geenie said, and some thoughts for the sponsors that don't use the sub-accounts.

If I see too low conversions, I will probably end up dropping the sponsor!

If there is no way for me to tell that there might be a prime site in their mix, that is converting at 1:50, when all I see as an affiliate is something like a 1:5000 conversion ratio.

Dropping the sponsor ends up being money that I could be missing out on making, and also money that the sponsor ends up not making because I(probably many others) stop sending traffic.

[emmanuelle]

Originally Posted by tickler

and also money that the sponsor ends up not making because I(probably many others) stop sending traffic.

I think this situation needs a disclaimer. It presumes that poor ratios are the sponsor's fault, and does not take into account affiliates who
[i] don't understand what they are promoting [ii] list sites in unproductive categories [iii] throw a bunch of gagging midget tgp traffic at a foot fetish site.

If we could eliminate the politics, posturing and chest thumping, I think that we could all put those energies to better use- learning as much as we can about our products and our customers.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I think this situation needs a disclaimer...

Not really. You should be looking at individual sites in the program & not the entire program when it comes to what you're going to promote. If you have no idea what the individual sites are doing & the ratios for the entire program are bad (for whatever reason - and the reason is not important in this discussion) then you will probably not promote the program.

But, if you can look at the individual site stats, you might see that some are converting really bad & some are converting really good. Then you just drop the bad ones & continue to promote the good ones.

By not having multiple sites on sub-accounts in CCBill, the webmaster has no idea what's making sales & what's not, so in all likelihood, they will just drop the program.

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

...Not sure I made any sense...

I sorta understood it

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

I personally chose to have all my sites under one master account (merged), just because I don't want people having to sign-up for 14 sites when they want to promote all my sites...

You don't have to do that - that's why they have the sub-accounts. So for you, it'd be:
924961-0000
924961-0001
924961-0002
etc
Then each site has a sub-account & you & the webmaster can see which sites made sales.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I sorta understood it

You don't have to do that - that's why they have the sub-accounts. So for you, it'd be:
924961-0000
924961-0001
924961-0002
etc
Then each site has a sub-account & you & the webmaster can see which sites made sales.

Ahh.. that, yes. I do that..but I thought you ment CLICK tracking, not sales tracking. I'm pretty sure that if the accounts are merged, all hits show up under the account 0000 (and you can't change the sub-account in refer.ccbill.com links, it doesn't work like that. Or atleast didn't in 2003/04 when I asked about it).

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

...but I thought you ment CLICK tracking, not sales tracking...

Yeah - that's one thing I really wish CCBill would add - count clicks for the sub accounts instead of just the total that defaults to the 0000 account when you go & look at individual sales.