Are adult sites are losing visitors?

r3n3gad3 · 2007-04-24, 06:51 PM

Hi,

in the paper today I read a article about adult sites who are losing many visitors (10% a month!).

And the community sites are gaining visitors, can you guys verify this if it is true of totall crap

thnx!

Surfn · 2007-04-24, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by r3n3gad3

Hi,

in the paper today I read a article about adult sites who are losing many visitors (10% a month!).

And the community sites are gaining visitors, can you guys verify this if it is true of totall crap

thnx!

Logically that would suggest the we (adult sites) would have 0 visitors in 10 months...um...what do you think?

sabin · 2007-04-24, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3n3gad3

Hi,

in the paper today I read a article about adult sites who are losing many visitors (10% a month!).

And the community sites are gaining visitors, can you guys verify this if it is true of totall crap

thnx!

Someone pull that statistic completely out of their ass.

The internet is at least 97% porn (and 1% mundane blogs). I doubt 10% of the people said:

"Hmm, I think I'm going to stop jerking it to this porn and read about the new crappy restaurant that opened in my crappy town."

But hey, what do I know?

virgohippy · 2007-04-24, 07:16 PM

I dunno... we're over here in a community based site instead of looking at porn.

Maybe surfers are becoming webmasters!

Licker4U · 2007-04-24, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by r3n3gad3

And the community sites are gaining visitors...

What's a community site?

oldbrad · 2007-04-24, 09:05 PM

like myspace and youtube prolly. Where you interact with other people.

Thats what i do alot over at mma.tv. Chit chat with likeminded people

Surfn · 2007-04-24, 10:10 PM

I would agree that 10% or more of the new adult webmasters leave each month. That is very different than the topic of this thread...

Ronzo · 2007-04-24, 11:49 PM

I would agree as well that 10% or more of new adult webmasters leave every month. It's possible this quote was taken out of context. I also wouldn't be surprised if that quote wasn't referring to subscription-based websites losing 10% of their subscribers... I'm sure VOD is causing some loss of subscribers. As the appeal of no recurring charges or monthly fees no doubt appeals to a lot of porn consumers.

Mr Spock · 2007-04-25, 03:02 AM

Could be a good thing in the long run - especially if you consider that the 10% probably comprises surfers who were looking for free porn anyway - leaving behind surfers who are more likely to reach for their credit cards.

This is just one way to spin this story - assuming that the stats quoted are correct - How you measure something like this is another question.

jayeff · 2007-04-25, 08:02 AM

I haven't the vaguest idea whether overall we are losing or gaining visitors. I do know that online porn as a major industry is barely into its second decade and still moving towards the inevitable equilibrium between supply and demand. In other words, competition is getting fiercer and that surely impacts on the business done by the average site.

I do believe we have "stalled". The last real innovation from the mainstream adult webmaster community was live video back in what, 1997. Our product has generally improved and most of our sites are more user friendly, but essentially we have been selling the same things in the same ways for the past 5 years and more. The internet brings us a steady stream of new and therefore curious visitors, but the ratio of experienced surfers is steadily increasing and for those to whom we have failed to appeal, we have nothing new to offer.

While sites such as "I Shot Myself" and "Suicide Girls" have appeared out of left field as it were, longstanding webmasters have increasingly resorted to feeding off each other, rather than staying focused on building sales to the general public. Boards/sites like this may be benign, but they are still a symptom of that and others like Zango are most definitely not benign. With a handful of honorable exceptions, many of our major sponsors still treat surfers and affiliates as if we were in the 90's.

Bottom line, I suspect the report is at best a distortion, but I do believe that until a new generation of webmasters moves to the top of this industry we are being held back. Right now we must have many who long since fulfilled their ambitions and are marking time, others who owe their prominence to lucky timing and only momentum is keeping them moving. That doesn't make for a dynamic market, one that is better maximizing its potential.

bluemoney · 2007-04-26, 08:32 AM

I think I'll just keep plugging away at it. . . .fuck the "experts"

BOSS · 2007-04-27, 03:47 AM

This is incorrect according to my numbers

2007-04-24, 06:51 PM	#1
r3n3gad3 Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 106	Are adult sites are losing visitors? Hi, in the paper today I read a article about adult sites who are losing many visitors (10% a month!). And the community sites are gaining visitors, can you guys verify this if it is true of totall crap thnx!

2007-04-24, 07:16 PM	#4
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	I dunno... we're over here in a community based site instead of looking at porn. Maybe surfers are becoming webmasters! __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2007-04-24, 09:05 PM	#6
oldbrad It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 485	like myspace and youtube prolly. Where you interact with other people. Thats what i do alot over at mma.tv. Chit chat with likeminded people __________________ Help MrMaryLou Link to his Chubby TGP & Chubby Links on your sites and blogs.

2007-04-24, 10:10 PM	#7
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I would agree that 10% or more of the new adult webmasters leave each month. That is very different than the topic of this thread... __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner? Last edited by Surfn; 2007-04-24 at 10:16 PM..

2007-04-26, 08:32 AM	#11
bluemoney Shimmering Silver Head Of Wisdom Looking At Me! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Chronic Town Posts: 2,024	I think I'll just keep plugging away at it. . . .fuck the "experts" __________________ Milf Porn For The Masses

2007-04-24, 11:49 PM	#8
Ronzo WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 40	I would agree as well that 10% or more of new adult webmasters leave every month. It's possible this quote was taken out of context. I also wouldn't be surprised if that quote wasn't referring to subscription-based websites losing 10% of their subscribers... I'm sure VOD is causing some loss of subscribers. As the appeal of no recurring charges or monthly fees no doubt appeals to a lot of porn consumers.

2007-04-25, 03:02 AM	#9
Mr Spock You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Vulcan Posts: 695	Could be a good thing in the long run - especially if you consider that the 10% probably comprises surfers who were looking for free porn anyway - leaving behind surfers who are more likely to reach for their credit cards. This is just one way to spin this story - assuming that the stats quoted are correct - How you measure something like this is another question.

2007-04-25, 08:02 AM	#10
jayeff Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 95	I haven't the vaguest idea whether overall we are losing or gaining visitors. I do know that online porn as a major industry is barely into its second decade and still moving towards the inevitable equilibrium between supply and demand. In other words, competition is getting fiercer and that surely impacts on the business done by the average site. I do believe we have "stalled". The last real innovation from the mainstream adult webmaster community was live video back in what, 1997. Our product has generally improved and most of our sites are more user friendly, but essentially we have been selling the same things in the same ways for the past 5 years and more. The internet brings us a steady stream of new and therefore curious visitors, but the ratio of experienced surfers is steadily increasing and for those to whom we have failed to appeal, we have nothing new to offer. While sites such as "I Shot Myself" and "Suicide Girls" have appeared out of left field as it were, longstanding webmasters have increasingly resorted to feeding off each other, rather than staying focused on building sales to the general public. Boards/sites like this may be benign, but they are still a symptom of that and others like Zango are most definitely not benign. With a handful of honorable exceptions, many of our major sponsors still treat surfers and affiliates as if we were in the 90's. Bottom line, I suspect the report is at best a distortion, but I do believe that until a new generation of webmasters moves to the top of this industry we are being held back. Right now we must have many who long since fulfilled their ambitions and are marking time, others who owe their prominence to lucky timing and only momentum is keeping them moving. That doesn't make for a dynamic market, one that is better maximizing its potential.

2007-04-27, 03:47 AM	#12
BOSS Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal / Sparta Posts: 261	This is incorrect according to my numbers