do you really need reviewers anymore

Tommy · 2007-08-03, 12:03 PM

I been think the whole reviewer process could easyly be automated

maybe time would be better spend policing by clicking links after they are listed and just tossing any submitters that you dont like

google dont have any reviewers and I am spending about 5k a month on saleries

anyone else ever think about this

virgohippy · 2007-08-03, 12:13 PM

Actually, Google does have reviewers. Bunches of people are hired by Google to check up on spam reports, quality, etc.

Though, listing first and doing a quality control after does seem appealing.

My only concern is without a human gatekeeper it'd be that much easier for a bot/multi-submitter to sneak through that door and flood your pages before human eyes noticed it.

ClickBuster · 2007-08-03, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by virgohippy

Actually, Google does have reviewers. Bunches of people are hired by Google to check up on spam reports, quality, etc.

Though, listing first and doing a quality control after does seem appealing.

My only concern is without a human gatekeeper it'd be that much easier for a bot/multi-submitter to sneak through that door and flood your pages before human eyes noticed it.

LOL, ever heard of CAPTCHA? If you think it's that easy to create a bot for it... let me know about it. There're probably less than 100 people in the World that know how to code that shit really well and they ain't wasting their time submitting sites, that's for sure. Just order yourself a nice unique version for your site and you're good to go IMO

Tommy · 2007-08-03, 12:38 PM

well i never ment they would get listed blindly

the submits would go thru a bunch of filters before getting listed

the filters could check the movies and pics and the # of ads etc etc

with the paid partners my site is very quiet as far as cheaters go

LowryBigwood · 2007-08-03, 01:06 PM

I bet you could automate it enough where you could get by with 1 reviewer, but I'm not sure about no reviewers. But, I'm not on your linklists' level so I probably don't know what I'm talking about.

Preacher · 2007-08-03, 01:17 PM

As Lowry knows, dragonlists has two levels of accounts, active & partner.

I've often thought about setting partner accounts to automatically list instead of going into the review bin. I can't remember the last time I rejected a partners freesite, as they build good clean sites and double-check everything. That would cut down my reviews by about 40%.

The thing is I'm very anal about the descriptions, so if I didn't manually review -- even just the partner's sites -- about 50% of the submits would have no punctuation and about the same amount would have sentence fragments.

Is it worth the hassle?..

LowryBigwood · 2007-08-03, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Preacher

As Lowry knows, dragonlists has two levels of accounts, active & partner.

I've often thought about setting partner accounts to automatically list instead of going into the review bin. I can't remember the last time I rejected a partners freesite, as they build good clean sites and double-check everything. That would cut down my reviews by about 40%.

The thing is I'm very anal about the descriptions, so if I didn't manually review -- even just the partner's sites -- about 50% of the submits would have no punctuation and about the same amount would have sentence fragments.

Is it worth the hassle?..

Exactly right Preacher. In fact, I do have my partners set to autolisted but i do surf for quality control.

For me, it saves a lot of time and as you said the partners are pretty good about building quality sites that hardly ever need policing... .02

virgohippy · 2007-08-03, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy

well i never ment they would get listed blindly

I knew exactly what you meant. I don't take you for a fool.

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Originally Posted by Tommy

the filters could check the movies and pics and the # of ads etc etc

Seems to me that if you have all this in place, assuming it works right, you could reduce the review work load rather then eliminate it all-together.

I suppose by making the system auto-list, the quality of your site will be dependent on reviewers independent of quantity. With individual submits reviewed before listing the quantity of your site is dependent on reviewers, but quality should stay stable. Does the contrast of the two make sense?

Maybe I'm just a pessimist who thinks that because I can't program my own brain into a machine (yet

) I wouldn't trust any machine to work correctly with the possibility that a bunch of humans might try to abuse it. Then again...

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Originally Posted by Tommy

with the paid partners my site is very quiet as far as cheaters go

This is your #1 filter, so I imagine the other filters wouldn't have to catch as much as a site with completely open submits.

Greenguy · 2007-08-04, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

well i never ment they would get listed blindly

the submits would go thru a bunch of filters before getting listed

the filters could check the movies and pics and the # of ads etc etc

with the paid partners my site is very quiet as far as cheaters go

I can sorta see why you'd think this with the "partner only" thing, but even if I was, I'd still want to have a human look at the site before it was approved.

There's a lot of things that a bot can not see.

Tommy · 2007-08-03, 01:32 PM

but even if you wanted to be anal about the puntuation you could just email the webmaster and say could ya please be careful with this or that etc etc

a simple 20 mins a day clicking links

oldbrad · 2007-08-03, 09:21 PM

Maybe i'm just stuck in the old days, but couldn't you find quality reviewers that would do it in exchange for links or traffic. I did reviews for a couple big sites and a tgp back in the day in exchange for links and traffic.

I'm sure you have an insane amount of daily submits, but getting a couple people to review for traffic instead of money might save you five grand per month.

The automated system would be great in a perfect world, but could have problems like; people placing info in wrong places, spelling and grammar errors as well as other human errors.

If you could have a script to check those, check the sites for banned words, links, pics, movies, etc., or only allowed your longest running or most trusted submitters to use it, then it could work great to eliminate or dramatically cut down submits.

Going from 1500 submits a day to 3 or 4 hundred would free up tons of time and money.

Brad

2007-08-03, 12:13 PM	#2
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	Actually, Google does have reviewers. Bunches of people are hired by Google to check up on spam reports, quality, etc. Though, listing first and doing a quality control after does seem appealing. My only concern is without a human gatekeeper it'd be that much easier for a bot/multi-submitter to sneak through that door and flood your pages before human eyes noticed it. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2007-08-03, 12:38 PM	#4
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	well i never ment they would get listed blindly the submits would go thru a bunch of filters before getting listed the filters could check the movies and pics and the # of ads etc etc with the paid partners my site is very quiet as far as cheaters go __________________ Accepting New partners

2007-08-03, 01:06 PM	#5
LowryBigwood Don't get discouraged; it's usually the last key that opens the lock... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 1,203	I bet you could automate it enough where you could get by with 1 reviewer, but I'm not sure about no reviewers. But, I'm not on your linklists' level so I probably don't know what I'm talking about. __________________ Free Porn Buddy \| Porn Buddy Blog

2007-08-03, 01:17 PM	#6
Preacher There's Xanax in my thurible! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wherever they screw on my head Posts: 2,441	As Lowry knows, dragonlists has two levels of accounts, active & partner. I've often thought about setting partner accounts to automatically list instead of going into the review bin. I can't remember the last time I rejected a partners freesite, as they build good clean sites and double-check everything. That would cut down my reviews by about 40%. The thing is I'm very anal about the descriptions, so if I didn't manually review -- even just the partner's sites -- about 50% of the submits would have no punctuation and about the same amount would have sentence fragments. Is it worth the hassle?.. __________________ NSCash * This Depraved World

2007-08-03, 01:32 PM	#10
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	but even if you wanted to be anal about the puntuation you could just email the webmaster and say could ya please be careful with this or that etc etc a simple 20 mins a day clicking links __________________ Accepting New partners

2007-08-03, 12:03 PM	#1
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	do you really need reviewers anymore I been think the whole reviewer process could easyly be automated maybe time would be better spend policing by clicking links after they are listed and just tossing any submitters that you dont like google dont have any reviewers and I am spending about 5k a month on saleries anyone else ever think about this __________________ Accepting New partners

2007-08-03, 09:21 PM	#11
oldbrad It is better to watch things then to do them Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: oregon Posts: 485	Maybe i'm just stuck in the old days, but couldn't you find quality reviewers that would do it in exchange for links or traffic. I did reviews for a couple big sites and a tgp back in the day in exchange for links and traffic. I'm sure you have an insane amount of daily submits, but getting a couple people to review for traffic instead of money might save you five grand per month. The automated system would be great in a perfect world, but could have problems like; people placing info in wrong places, spelling and grammar errors as well as other human errors. If you could have a script to check those, check the sites for banned words, links, pics, movies, etc., or only allowed your longest running or most trusted submitters to use it, then it could work great to eliminate or dramatically cut down submits. Going from 1500 submits a day to 3 or 4 hundred would free up tons of time and money. Brad __________________ Help MrMaryLou Link to his Chubby TGP & Chubby Links on your sites and blogs.