Porn MegaBucks says I'm a fraud

tigermom · 2007-09-08, 01:58 PM

I would expect a sponsor to keep the lines of communication to a webmaster open and investigate first, before accusing of fraud and shutting down an account, especially since it's a CCBill program and who knows on which records of theirs the info is kept for future reference.

I think Sheepguy made it clear that he too is pretty certain that there was something fishy going on there with those sales. That was not the issue. The issue was with accusing the webmaster of that fraud, rather than investigating first. If it happened to Sheepguy, it could happen to anyone (and obviously it does happen from time to time). I would expect any sponsor that I work with to talk to the webmaster first and investigate and not just terminate an account and flag that webmaster as the one responsible for the fraud.

SheepGuy · 2007-09-08, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

I would expect a sponsor to keep the lines of communication to a webmaster open and investigate first, before accusing of fraud and shutting down an account, especially since it's a CCBill program and who knows on which records of theirs the info is kept for future reference.

I think Sheepguy made it clear that he too is pretty certain that there was something fishy going on there with those sales. That was not the issue. The issue was with accusing the webmaster of that fraud, rather than investigating first. If it happened to Sheepguy, it could happen to anyone (and obviously it does happen from time to time). I would expect any sponsor that I work with to talk to the webmaster first and investigate and not just terminate an account and flag that webmaster as the one responsible for the fraud.

My point exactly.

SheepGuy · 2007-09-08, 02:07 PM

Thanks LadyD, I was ready to drop them for poor conversions when these "sales" started showing up.

Useless · 2007-09-08, 02:27 PM

I think SheepGuy was using plateman's magic sign-up bot which comes equipped with its own credit cards, yet isn't advanced enough to change IPs.

Sounds like yet another case of a scripting error on the biller's end that ends up screwing both the webmaster and the program. It very well could be some douchebag attempting to sign-up, getting declined, attempting again, getting declined...lather, rinse, repeat...but the declines are getting tallied as sales. That explains why it's the same IP and why no one ever logged in to the member's area.

tickler · 2007-09-08, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

..... attempting to sign-up, getting declined, attempting again, getting declined...lather, rinse, repeat...but the declines are getting tallied as sales.

Had that problem in a somewhat different case.

First try the CC got declined for an error. Tried again being even more careful, and got declined again.

Pulled up the CC account to verify the info, and the multiple charges are showing on my statement.

So not all scripts are perfect. Especially in the online world where a lot of programmers do not have the formal training or experience.

2007-09-08, 01:58 PM	#1
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	I would expect a sponsor to keep the lines of communication to a webmaster open and investigate first, before accusing of fraud and shutting down an account, especially since it's a CCBill program and who knows on which records of theirs the info is kept for future reference. I think Sheepguy made it clear that he too is pretty certain that there was something fishy going on there with those sales. That was not the issue. The issue was with accusing the webmaster of that fraud, rather than investigating first. If it happened to Sheepguy, it could happen to anyone (and obviously it does happen from time to time). I would expect any sponsor that I work with to talk to the webmaster first and investigate and not just terminate an account and flag that webmaster as the one responsible for the fraud. __________________ XLEF

2007-09-08, 02:07 PM	#3
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	Thanks LadyD, I was ready to drop them for poor conversions when these "sales" started showing up. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2007-09-08, 02:27 PM	#4
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	I think SheepGuy was using plateman's magic sign-up bot which comes equipped with its own credit cards, yet isn't advanced enough to change IPs. Sounds like yet another case of a scripting error on the biller's end that ends up screwing both the webmaster and the program. It very well could be some douchebag attempting to sign-up, getting declined, attempting again, getting declined...lather, rinse, repeat...but the declines are getting tallied as sales. That explains why it's the same IP and why no one ever logged in to the member's area. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.