Good Free Site?

MrYum · 2007-09-16, 08:30 PM

Glad to help

Well, most free sites are definitely template based. So yes, there is some similarity in design. And I do indeed see a lot of those sites, but I also see some very nice clean sites by my trusted submitters too

The thing with free sites is to keep the goals in mind at all times. The first goal is to get listed with the majority of the sites where you submit. The next goal is to convince the surfer that the paysite you're promoting is the best thing since sliced bread

Therefore, the KISS principle comes into play. Keep It Simply Silly (actually the last word is supposed to be Stupid, but I don't know you and have no reason to be offensive toward you

).

In any case, the principle does apply. There's no reason to get overly fancy or make free sites that are graphic heavy. Keep your eye on the prize(s)...get listed, make sales

To that end, you'd probably be better served by using more text on your pages (galleries especially). Use your text to warm the surfer up...convince him he NEEDS to click through to that paysite. Banners are largely ignored these days, it's your text that's going to make sales (for the most part).

Yea, a lot of lists have moved on to 1024 wide, but I haven't checked stats on that in a while. Just be aware of looking for any that are still restricting to 800 wide as you're building recip tables and you should be fine

Some look at metas...some don't. I don't look at em all the time, but prefer not to say when or why I DO look at em. Let's just say you'd be AMAZED at the despicable crap some folks try to sneak in there

Besides, it's pretty common knowledge that keyword stuffing metas hasn't working in years. Nor does keyword stuffing alt tags. It only accomplishes 2 things these days...one is it 'could' be deemed spammy to the search engines, and nobody wants to link to spammy stuff. And 2, it pisses off reviewers like me when we're trying to quickly scan all those words for really 'bad' stuff.

Ah, so what I thought was pixelation was an artsy fartsy thing

Again, for your third outbound on the galleries, consider a nice block of juicy text, with a hyperlink at the end...or even in the middle of the unlinked text. I've seen that technique work quite well, when the linked text jumps out in the middle of unlinked text

Hmmm...perhaps even a solid colored bg table cell overlaid on the upper portion of the big image at the top. Then, drop a few lines of promo text into the table cell...2 unlinked...1 linked...2 unlinked. Just a thought

Sorry if I misled, the only tweaks I was really referring to were the comments already stated. Don't get me wrong...you're on the right track for sure. Your site is cleaner than many I see, but I also see some damn fine sites from my regular submitters. That said, I would also add that for someone new, you obviously have the skills to build damn nice sites

Oh, and I doubt anyone will give you grief over loading mpgs that way

Llam4 · 2007-09-16, 09:58 PM

I didn't expect this much help, especially from just one person. You've answered all of my questions and I feel I'm much better off because of it. Thank you!

I will try overlaying my top picture with a DIV of some sort and loading it up with juicy text, transfer it to a new server (The one I'm on is only 50GB/month, switching to 1000GB/month) and adding 4 more videos. More videos should definitely help LL listings and conversion rates.

Thanks again.

MrYum · 2007-09-16, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Llam4

I didn't expect this much help, especially from just one person. You've answered all of my questions and I feel I'm much better off because of it. Thank you!

I will try overlaying my top picture with a DIV of some sort and loading it up with juicy text, transfer it to a new server (The one I'm on is only 50GB/month, switching to 1000GB/month) and adding 4 more videos. More videos should definitely help LL listings and conversion rates.

Thanks again.

No worries man...glad to help

Just don't have time to do so as much as I'd like these days

As to adding content...something for you to ponder. You don't want to give Mr Horny Surfer enough to get off on. Think 'tease'...get em warmed up...definitely. Give em enough to stroke off to...nope

Minimum requirements for vids on the vast majority of link sites is still 120 seconds (I think)...your site is right at that now. If you add any, I wouldn't add more than one more vid per gallery. And I'm not aware of any link sites that will give you a better listing because you have more content.

Lemmy · 2007-09-16, 11:35 PM

Your site is decent and you shouldn't have a problem getting it listed most places.

As far as unique and artsy/graphic design is concerned, that's all well and fine and it's appreciated, but I'm not sure it will make you more money. Pumping out as many quality sites as possible with universal acceptance will. After a thousand or so sites even the best freesite builders get a signature look that is easily recognizable.

2007-09-16, 08:30 PM	#1
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Glad to help Well, most free sites are definitely template based. So yes, there is some similarity in design. And I do indeed see a lot of those sites, but I also see some very nice clean sites by my trusted submitters too The thing with free sites is to keep the goals in mind at all times. The first goal is to get listed with the majority of the sites where you submit. The next goal is to convince the surfer that the paysite you're promoting is the best thing since sliced bread Therefore, the KISS principle comes into play. Keep It Simply Silly (actually the last word is supposed to be Stupid, but I don't know you and have no reason to be offensive toward you ). In any case, the principle does apply. There's no reason to get overly fancy or make free sites that are graphic heavy. Keep your eye on the prize(s)...get listed, make sales To that end, you'd probably be better served by using more text on your pages (galleries especially). Use your text to warm the surfer up...convince him he NEEDS to click through to that paysite. Banners are largely ignored these days, it's your text that's going to make sales (for the most part). Yea, a lot of lists have moved on to 1024 wide, but I haven't checked stats on that in a while. Just be aware of looking for any that are still restricting to 800 wide as you're building recip tables and you should be fine Some look at metas...some don't. I don't look at em all the time, but prefer not to say when or why I DO look at em. Let's just say you'd be AMAZED at the despicable crap some folks try to sneak in there Besides, it's pretty common knowledge that keyword stuffing metas hasn't working in years. Nor does keyword stuffing alt tags. It only accomplishes 2 things these days...one is it 'could' be deemed spammy to the search engines, and nobody wants to link to spammy stuff. And 2, it pisses off reviewers like me when we're trying to quickly scan all those words for really 'bad' stuff. Ah, so what I thought was pixelation was an artsy fartsy thing Again, for your third outbound on the galleries, consider a nice block of juicy text, with a hyperlink at the end...or even in the middle of the unlinked text. I've seen that technique work quite well, when the linked text jumps out in the middle of unlinked text Hmmm...perhaps even a solid colored bg table cell overlaid on the upper portion of the big image at the top. Then, drop a few lines of promo text into the table cell...2 unlinked...1 linked...2 unlinked. Just a thought Sorry if I misled, the only tweaks I was really referring to were the comments already stated. Don't get me wrong...you're on the right track for sure. Your site is cleaner than many I see, but I also see some damn fine sites from my regular submitters. That said, I would also add that for someone new, you obviously have the skills to build damn nice sites Oh, and I doubt anyone will give you grief over loading mpgs that way __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2007-09-16, 11:35 PM	#4
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	Your site is decent and you shouldn't have a problem getting it listed most places. As far as unique and artsy/graphic design is concerned, that's all well and fine and it's appreciated, but I'm not sure it will make you more money. Pumping out as many quality sites as possible with universal acceptance will. After a thousand or so sites even the best freesite builders get a signature look that is easily recognizable. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2007-09-16, 09:58 PM	#2
Llam4 A woman is like beer. They look good, they smell good, and you'd step over your own mother just to get one! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 52	I didn't expect this much help, especially from just one person. You've answered all of my questions and I feel I'm much better off because of it. Thank you! I will try overlaying my top picture with a DIV of some sort and loading it up with juicy text, transfer it to a new server (The one I'm on is only 50GB/month, switching to 1000GB/month) and adding 4 more videos. More videos should definitely help LL listings and conversion rates. Thanks again.