Article says where porn use is up, rape goes down.

[Bobc01]

I guess if it's in an article it must be true.

You kind of get a clue with "Gangster (c)rap" and "Gangs"?
The way they look and their attitudes, it's all influenced by the music?

Sorry must be what they're teaching in schools now on how to earn respect by shooting each other, my, how things have changed.
I remember learning different things in school.
What you going to say next that hard drugs don't fuel addictions?
Maybe that's in an article somewhere.

I don't vote, never have and never will as politicians to me are all the same breed of arseholes.

[ecchi]

Originally Posted by Bobc01

I guess if it's in an article it must be true.

Actually I was only suggesting that you look at the articles because they are there. I did research on this years ago, for several reasons. Go to your local library (or if your local library is a small one it may have to be the central library). Ask in the reference section for the book on crime statistics (sorry cannot remember what it is called, but just ask for "crime statistics", they should know which book you mean, it is what I ask for and they always know what I want). You will need several editions because although it covers several years, one copy does not cover 25 years, you'll have to get the current one, and a couple of older ones. Then draw yourself a graph of the last 25 years of violent crime. Plot on it things like the VRA and the rise in popularity of gangster rap, you will find the number of violent crimes goes up sharply after the VRA came into force, but the number of violent crimes GOES DOWN slightly when "gangsta rap" begins to get popular over here.

The reason for this is that some people are violent by nature (or possibly nurture). They need to get it out of their system. Things like gangsta rap do this for some people. Instead of starting a fight or attacking someone they hate, they rap about "popping a cap in there ass" (or whatever). Have you ever had a row with someone who was being a complete arsehole and wanted to hit them, but end up punching the wall instead? It is the same thing.

Originally Posted by Bobc01

You kind of get a clue with "Gangster (c)rap" and "Gangs"?The way they look and their attitudes, it's all influenced by the music?

Yes music is a popular bogey man. A while back it was "Gangster rap warps our kid's minds", before that it was "Heavy metal warps our kid's minds", prior to that it was "Punk rock warps our kid's minds", further back still rock 'n' roll, and before that jazz. Believe it or not, when I was researching an article on Lord Nelson I came across an report written somewhere between 100 and 200 years ago talking about the "corrupting" influence of ballet music, which had just been introduced from France. Parliament were considering banning this immoral music and the obscene dances people did to it!

Originally Posted by Bobc01

I don't vote, never have and never will as politicians to me are all the same breed of arseholes.

I didn't suggest that you did vote for the government, I merely pointed out that to defend themselves from claims that they are not doing enough to combat violence, the government got their spin doctors to deflect blame onto something else, and Alister Campbell, or someone like him, came up with the old chestnut of "it's that devil's music what is to blame", and you, you old Victor Meldrew you, went along with the "kids of today, and their evil music, mumble grumble....." type whine!

In short, no I agree don't automatically believe everything you read, do what I did, look up the figures, and do a bit of research. Don't automatically believe what the government spin doctors tell you. And, hey I'm the middle aged guy, I'm the one supposed to be a "Victor Meldrew", not you!